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Anyone want Elizabeth Warren in charge?

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Response by alanhart
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I do, I do.

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Response by Riversider
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Ditto!

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Response by alanhart
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I just don't like those kinds of songs where they talk instead of singing.

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Response by fieldschester
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Response by NYCMatt
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Response by GraffitiGrammarian
over 12 years ago
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Yes!

The Old Boys Club that has run things so far, with its constant push for zero regulation, has given us:

climate change, collapsing natural systems, polluted oceans, chemicals in our good and drinking water and a dying bio-sphere (mass extinctions of plant and animal life).

Throw the bums out! They've believed for too long that they were the Chosen Ones, and as such never had to face the consequences of their actions.

How about we put someone sane in charge, for a change, who might be able to save what's left?

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Response by NYCNovice
over 12 years ago
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GG - give it a few years and Sheryl Sandberg will be in charge. She is the real deal (as is Elizabeth Warren). I don't subscribe to all the gender issues, but for those looking for a woman to run things, my money is on Sheryl if another doesn't get there first.

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Response by West34
over 12 years ago
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I already voted for Warren with my checkbook. Plan to do it again.

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Response by fieldschester
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Is Warren a supporter of gambling on Indian reservations?

I voted against Cuomo's proposal for new casinos last week. Oh well. I think it just sadly takes advantage of the poor.

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Response by NYCMatt
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Cheryl Sandberg is NOT the "real deal"; she is the beneficiary of affirmative action and our politically-correct times.

She is a brainless twit in a skirt who's successfully ridden on the shoulders of the people below her.

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Response by fieldschester
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What is the affirmative action that benefitted Sandberg?

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Response by NYCMatt
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She's a woman who was promoted (and protected) beyond her level of competency.

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Response by fieldschester
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I'm not sure that is called affirmative action.

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Response by NYCMatt
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Affirmative action covers women and minorities.

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Response by fieldschester
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It may "cover" women and minorities, and she may be" a brainless twit in a skirt who's successfully ridden on the shoulders of the people below her," but you haven't indicated that it is affirmative action.

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Response by 9d8b7988045e4953a882
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> I voted against Cuomo's proposal for new casinos last week. Oh well. I think it just sadly takes advantage of the poor.

Are you saying that the poor are imbeciles and need your guidance to make the right decisions?

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Response by fieldschester
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No, I'm saying we need to discourage institutions whose principal purpose is to take advantage of the less advantaged. And I'm doubly firm in my opinion when the governmental support for such institutions is to fill budget gaps created by other irresponsibilities.

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Response by NYCNovice
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Sheryl Sandberg - The real deal; ask any man or woman who has ever worked with or for her. Extraordinary human being, who just happens to be a woman.

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Response by NYCMatt
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I'm a man who's worked with her. Extraordinary is not the word.

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Response by NYCNovice
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Matt - interesting; what capacity? Btw - you weren't really serious about the aff action statement were you? Do you really think that Mark Zuckerberg, Sergei Brin or Larry Page or anyone else in Silicon Valley, not to mention Larry Summers, would choose anyone other than best person for the job? I personally wish she hadn't started this whole Lean In thing b/c I feel like anyone who has to be told to Lean In will never make it; in my book it's akin to telling someone to "get smarter!" I liked her more pre-Lean In. But forget about that, you are first person I've encountered to say anything negative, and I am curious.

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Response by fieldschester
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Actually NYCNovice, I think the burden is on you first. She's certainly well known, smart and in the right place at the right time, but you've called her a rather grand "extraordinary human being" and then quickly followed up with your criticism of her "lean in" in a manner that would lead us to believe that your opnion is that she's one or more of arrogant, thoughtless, unrealistic, or an idiot.

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Response by NYCNovice
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My limited experience with her is that she is incredibly hard working, humble and generous beyond what is reported in the media. I know a number of people who have professional experience with her, and among those are a few who I actually believe tend towards sexist and do not give out compliments or respect lightly, yet everybody I know with personal professional experience with her is uniformly impressed at a high level. I admit that I am puzzled by the Lean In thing; the only explanation I can think of is that her intended audience is all the young women out there who are constantly asking her for advice. However, I think part of my annoyance with Lean In stems from the media's only focusing on half of Sheryl's message, and that is not Sheryl's fault. The half of the message that the media failed to pick up on is how the workplace is incredibly hard on men who want to help out at home; society puts as much pressure on men to achieve as it does on women to be good moms; I was never in a work place that allowed a man to take paternity leave without tanking his career - unspoken, but undeniable in my admittedly limited experience. I know a few couples of equal earning potential whose careers each have taken a hit because they choose to split the childcare duties; from what they tell me, the woman's employer is always far more understanding than the man's, but with neither one committing to their jobs 24/7 (which is what is required today to get to the top), neither one gets to the top. In other words, men who want to take care of their children can't have it all in the same way that women who want to be CEO's can't be at every soccer game. I don't see a place in this competitive world where anybody who wants to attend their kids soccer games gets to be CEO whether it is a man or a woman, so I am not sure what Sheryl's utopia is. In any event, I think Sheryl is great, and either way, she is a force to be reckoned with. She has been consistent in her unwavering commitment to make a positive difference since I first crossed paths with her some 10 years ago; I also know people who have known her since college, and they all say she has always been like that. So, I believe she is the opposite of arrogant and thoughtless, and she certainly is not an idiot. Unrealistic? That is an interesting one: Each time I catch myself thinking that she is unrealistic because "that's just the way it is; some things will never change," I have to stop myself because I realize that's what many thought who ultimately ended up on the wrong side of history. While I am not sure what her perfect world looks like, I do think she is a remarkable person, and I am waiting to see what she does next.

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Response by West34
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Let's see, Sandberg:

Graduated Harvard in 1991 summa cum laude with an A.B. in economics and was awarded the John H. Williams Prize for the top graduating student in economics.
She earned an MBA from Harvard Business School with highest distinction.

Say what you will about her connections, career path, and writings, only an idiot would posit that she may be "an idiot"

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Response by fieldschester
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Well NYCNovice didn't say she was an idiot.

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Response by West34
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Re: Well NYCNovice didn't say she was an idiot.

It looks like Matt's actual words were "brainless twit". But that's from a coop board president who has his building's bricks completely repointed every 5 years.

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Response by fieldschester
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That way the bricks stay sharp.

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Response by w67thstreet
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something is sharp...

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Response by w67thstreet
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Plenty of harvard people flipping burgers... maybe Harvard needed to fill it's "idiot" quota that year... WTF does education have anything to do with individual success, moral compass or where they end up?

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Response by West34
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Re: WTF does education have anything to do with individual success, moral compass or where they end up?

Normally not much. Hell, I know of a Harvard grad who ended up as a real estate broker. But I would think it a near impossibility for "an idiot" or "brainless twit" to be the TOP Harvard economics grad in any year.

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Response by West34
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And I don't know Sandberg from a hole in the ground but I suspect she can run intellectual rings around NYCMatt in her sleep, while drunk, when she was 5.

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Response by fieldschester
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>And I don't know Sandberg from a hole in the ground

oh come on, Sandberg is nothing like w67th's wife

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Response by yikes
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thk god warren crushed that moron twerp frat boy.

we need her voice/backbone.

i would be thrilled for her to be president.

hillary's defensive fawning over the banks/wall st is not surprising.

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Response by fieldschester
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yikes, what exactly happened with you and your ex-career on Wall Street?

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Response by mattlamb
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Not me. Bloomberg is a hundred times more qualified and accomplished than Warren. I think he should be President. I'd like to see Warren start a business and create a few jobs. She should take out a loan, take some risk and go into business and try to make a living. She would have a better understanding of what it takes to create jobs and deal with regulation. How can you govern what you don't understand? If all we had in this country were academics and lawyers we would all starve to death. We need to have people in government who know how to do productive things and who have done them. I wish our country would wake up and actually start hiring people for government as if we're hiring an accountant rather than a spokesmodel.

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Response by nycfund
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>>> She should take out a loan, take some risk and go into business and try to make a living. She would have a better understanding of what it takes to create jobs and deal with regulation. How can you govern what you don't understand?

Very well said. I would only add that she is a de facto elitist. Pre-financial crisis/Warren, those with modest means and credit could get a mortgage, a loan, etc. Now they can not. Opportunity and risk go together. She has stripped away risk (credit Warren) and, at the same time, opportunity (fault Warren).

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Response by rangersfan
over 12 years ago
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well, she did have to overcome her native american heritage in her rise to power.

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Response by Riversider
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I like knowing there's an Elizabeth Warren in the room. It introduces an opinion set that would not there otherwise and keeps the rest 'more honest' than they would have been otherwise. Would be even better if we had two Elizabeth Warren to prevent opponents from painting her as crazy, etc, but President? No way! She'd make a fantastic technocrat and I'm sure a fine representative, but not a chief executive.

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Response by fieldschester
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Chuck Grassley

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