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co-op finanacials

Started by oidrtybtrd
almost 16 years ago
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I'm currently looking at a co-op in BK with a $1.5M mortgage with a ballon payment due in 2013. Interest is 5%, with principal based on 30 Yr. aortitization, for 10 years. They've also been running for the past 3 years at a loss of $4K('09), 17K & 55K('07). The reserve is around 20% of yearly expenses. Any insight will be helpful...Thanks in advance.
Response by oidrtybtrd
almost 16 years ago
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anyone?

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Response by broadwayron
almost 16 years ago
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"They've also been running for the past 3 years at a loss of $4K('09), 17K & 55K('07)."

Sounds like crap. How many assessments and/or maint. increases have they done in the last few years?

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Response by front_porch
almost 16 years ago
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How many units? These raw numbers spread over six units would bum me out, spread over 80 units wouldn't.

ali r.
DG Neary Realty

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Response by oidrtybtrd
almost 16 years ago
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I think the assessments have been an extra month's maintence the past 2 years.

And there are 85 units in the building.

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Response by oidrtybtrd
almost 16 years ago
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It's about $600 in maintaince per month, so spead over the year is only $50 extra.

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Response by alanhart
almost 16 years ago
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I thought coops MUST run at a loss (or breakeven, but not more) ... ?

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Response by ab_11218
almost 16 years ago
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from the limited info you provided, it doesn't seem bad. at least they have reduced their losses over the past few years. you should find out what major work needs to be done to get a better idea of where the maintenance or assessments are going.

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Response by oidrtybtrd
almost 16 years ago
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My two main concerns were the low reserve (20%) and the balloon payment due in 2013. I'll also find out abou the major works in the near future.

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Response by ab_11218
almost 16 years ago
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can you put a # on the 20%. that would make it easier. as you can expect, a 80 unit building or a 150 unit building will pay close to the same for a new roof for example. one of the buildings may have a doorman and thus the reserve number can become meaningless. you can also find out if the building has a line of credit out and for how much. this way they don't need to go the route of a new mortgage or major assessments, but just tap the line.

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Response by oidrtybtrd
almost 16 years ago
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reserve = 105k

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