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Wall Street Bonuses on or above target for 2007

Started by spunky
about 18 years ago
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Lehman Profits Fall, but Give Wall Street a Lift By JENNY ANDERSON Published: September 19, 2007 The markets breathed a sigh of relief yesterday as Lehman Brothers, the first major Wall Street bank to report third-quarter earnings, took a hit from the seized-up mortgage markets and turbulent credit conditions but still posted results that were stronger than expected. Investors had expected that... [more]
Response by NYC10013
about 18 years ago
Posts: 464
Member since: Jan 2007

Sorry, GS wasn't flat, it was actually down from $640K to $600K, a decline of 6%. Or maybe you don't understand what per cap bonus means.

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Response by spunky
about 18 years ago
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Could you please let me know where it states that GS will be paying out lower bonuses this year? Just provide the facts bremlig and try not to get to defensive with your replies.

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Response by spunky
about 18 years ago
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Could you please let me know where it states that GS will be paying out lower bonuses this year? Just provide the facts bremlig and try not to get to defensive with your replies.

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Response by NYC10013
about 18 years ago
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I was simply stating the facts according to the article you posted. You should read the first full paragraph of the article you posted.

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Response by Oberon
about 18 years ago
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Member since: Sep 2007

spunkster...this one will leave a mark...

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Response by spunky
about 18 years ago
Posts: 1627
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Bonuses are up 18 b in 2007 from 16.5 billion in 2006.That clearly states bonuses are up. What mark does it leave Oberon? Oh the mark where those that produce get rewarded and those that don't will make less.

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Response by NYC10013
about 18 years ago
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Spunky - Here's a simple way of putting it for you (I completely hear you that numbers get a little confusing sometimes): Let's assume you're the average GS employee so you made $640K in 2006. Now you're going to make $600K in 2007, a decrease of $40K. Is your compensation in 2007 higher or lower than it was in 2006?

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Response by aifamm
about 18 years ago
Posts: 483
Member since: Sep 2007

bremlig, so it's as simple as taking the full bonus number and dividing it by the total number of employees? Interesting math.

Repost: aifamm 4 days ago - not down for goldman, no link needed.

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Response by NYC10013
about 18 years ago
Posts: 464
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It's that simple if you're trying to look at the avg employee from a macro perspective and how that may or may not impact the NYC real estate market. It's obviously not that simple if you're talking about specific divisions (IBD, FICC, PIA, WM, etc), groups (Lev Fin, M&A, etc) or employees (class ranking, promotion, revenue, etc), or how the employee mix changed. Looking at the total bonus pool absent headcount for the purpose of evaluating the NYC real estate market is a little ridiculous. Looking at per cap bonuses is only marginally better but they don't have a Case-Shiller index for IB, PE and HF comp.

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Response by yournamehere
about 18 years ago
Posts: 172
Member since: Mar 2007

Okay, resolved, Goldman up in aggregate, down per capita. You're both right. Bear in mind, though, that most of Goldman's headcount growth occurred overseas this year, so per capita is actually a good way of looking at the effect in NYC. All other banks are much worse off this year.

As if the news about 2007 comp isn't bad enough, consider the following:

Wall Street Sees 20% M&A Slump on Scarce LBO Credit (Update1)

By Ambereen Choudhury and Zachary R. Mider

Dec. 17 (Bloomberg) -- Even Goldman Sachs Group Inc., the world's leading takeover adviser since 2001, is prepared for a decline in mergers and acquisitions income next year when a slowing economy reduces the market for leveraged buyouts.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601109&sid=aXgMzZNYYMKk&refer=home

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