Desirable streets in Tribeca?

from reade to north moore and west of hudson are best.

"Can anyone tell me which streets are desirable and which are undesirable to live?"

???
are you relocating? which street do you like?

Lucille obviously she doesnt know what street he/she likes if they started the thread. Try reading the post first....

LucilleCan'tRead

how does one not know what street they like? and needs anon posters to tell them what they like? unless he/she is relocating, that's just crazy.

cc, no more dity talk for you, you'll have relive the thrill by reading my old posts. lucille is on probation. shoo now.

Well very simple, when your not from a particular area and don't know anyone personally from that area, you generally ask people you dont know from SE to help. Is that simple enough??

tribecasearch is spot on. There's a couple blocks north of North Moore that have improved quite a bit, but the best area is exactly as described. I'd only add that between Hudson and Greenwich can be preferable to being further west if you use the train on a daily basis.

Actually, N. Moore west of Varick is considered on of the best blocks in Tribeca, and subway access is very good.

well, since you're being so nice about it, and i'll take you at your word that you are not that poster and have no vested interest in promoting some or all parts of tribeca. no, it is not simple at all. i asked the op if he was re locating, perhaps he/she will respond with more details of what he/she seeks. you, however, on the surface, know nothing of op's needs, nor were you the second poster who explained that only one particular area is considered desireble and therefore worth the highest prices in this fair city. venture a single block outside of that area and you're breathing in tunnel fumes, and your elite manhattan experience involves looking at a whole lot of nj commuters who are going to their comfy houses and think you're kind of a retard (from the warmth and comfort of their cars, of course). we are a small island nation. he doesn't have to "know someone" to go there and decide what he likes. last time i checked tribeca is not a facist country club or a lineage-based membership organization. so the question really is, jahanh, what precisely is YOUR problem?

LucilleIsRambling

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You'll leave when you're good and ready:

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and the honorable justice mw has ruled that i can stay as long as i'm good for 1 month, at which point he will be willing to consider restoring me to general population. he is a fair ruler.

How about using a cap once in a while???

see, technically, if i respond to you it will count as trolling a legit thread, which i crossmyheartnadhopetodie promised the judge not to do. but in this case, you are the troll, since your only contribution to the thread was to attack me.

I didn't attack you Lucille, I was just responding to your kinda "dumb" question to the OP. But now that this is all out of the way, to the OP I think Tribeca is a great area and the better part, ie. family oriented is what tribecasearch mentioned....

OP: Sorry for the delay. I forgot about this discussion bc it wouldn't post for so long. So yes, i'm relocating..from LA. I was looking for something on the UES but a few ppl have recommended Tribeca. I'm in my early thirties and hoping to start a family soon. I know this is the sales board, but it looks like i'll be trying to rent to begin with. The neighborhood seems a bit cold and discordant with the rest of manhattan but everyone assures me that this isnt the case, so i figured i'd check it out.

Reade to N. Moore and West of Hudson? Wow! Such a tiny sliver. I'm glad I asked.

What do you guys think of this? http://streeteasy.com/nyc/rental/718191-rental-24-harrison-street-tribeca-new-york

And what do you think of the price?

btw, January avg rental price for One-bedrooms in Tribeca was $4629.

oh wait, i think that's wrong..

smooth - they couldn't rent it at $5,000, so of course they RAISED the price to $6,0000, and it still hasn't rented. What does that tell you about the price?

oh wow, I see that now. I wonder what the problem is. I mean, the place looks good from afar though there is no storage, no light in the bedroom and no window in the bathroom...

if you had thought youd like the UES, and you can be happy there, you will pay waaaaay less for better space--very different neighborhoods, culturally--opposite in many ways

I agree with Smooth, UES is really nice and a lot more reasonable than Tribeca right now. Better space with much more sunlight, depending on the floor...

smooth - you might also take into account where you will be working. Commutation time is also very often
factored into where people decide to live.

Would need the 6 to get uptown. Thinking about Flatiron today. I keep waiting for more UES turnover. Nothing up there is looking good. The quality is all over the place and a washer/dryer in-unit on a nice block with an updated kitchen is difficult to find in the $5k+/- price range.

Smoothmove
Guess I'll post to this thread instead of the April 1st thread since all the action is here.

Have to agree with ph41, and keep in mind it's better to travel 30 blocks north and south than 5 avenues across. If you need the 6, your obviously working on the east side.
Flatiron is perfectly central to balance work life with social life. Tribeca is great but you will tire of the commutes and the cab fares when your going elsewhere.
If you end up north of 14th street, you'll be better off sticking to living east of 6th ave.

To answer your questions on brokers from the other thread, I can only answer on personal experiences and over 15 years without being in the rental market for more than 4 years.
I can tell you stay away from Manhattan Apartments and Bond Street. Citi Habitats is a very rental heavy firm, very hit and miss on very good and very bad brokers.
Prudential and Corcoran among the larger brokerages and may be good for relative stabilty and a safe choice.

Where are you relocating from? Will you be able to precheck and visit prospective apartments? Spent considerable time in NYC before? If so, favorite restaurants....fav park...etc.
You may want to remain relatively private on this board but do keep in mind the more specific things you tell us about you, your tastes, your needs, you may get some substancial help from this ragtag bunch of degenerate SE forum junkies.

use ny bits--youll find plenty of large one bdrms for 3-4k/months on the ues---you did ask what was thought of a 1 bdrm on harrison--and few 1 bdrms have w/d's in unit--yuppies send laundry out

If by "hoping to start a family soon" you mean during the first year of your move, Tribeca is a good place to go. Its full of kids and kids' activities and stores plus good access to parks (certainly moreso than Flatiron). In addition to the 6 you can also get to parts of the east side of midtown via the E, which will take longer but is a much more pleasant ride (i.e. empty when it leaves tribeca).

ph41 is right about the most desirable streets but that leaves out a pretty significant area that is still pretty desirable. In general you are fine as long as you are not on Church, Canal or too close to the Holland Tunnel. Unlike the UES, its a pretty small neighborhood.

" I'm in my early thirties and hoping to start a family soon. "

here is your deciding factor. has the person with whom you intend to start this family already materialized and is being imported with you from the west coast or do you intend to meet them here. 2 answers, 2 distinctly different possible neighborhood options. hope this helps the discourse.

I agree with Malthus. If family is starting very soon, Tribeca is a much better option that Flatiron in terms of family-friendliness (parks, activities, schools, more space). UES is also good for families but it's a very different kind of family.

Also if somewhat agnostic about location, you could try the Solaire in BPC (or Tribeca South) http://streeteasy.com/nyc/building/the-solaire I lived there a few years back and most apartments had W/D.

Okay, Flatiron is out then. I trust you guys. As for Tribeca, i'm suddenly torn. I'm definitely worried about the commute so i'm wondering if it would be worth it. What might be the ads/disads over UES? Is Tribeca too small. Is this an advantage..? Is it fairly contained or does it feel like a pass thru area to somewhere else? Is it boring? What is the culture? Does it feel isolated? Full of mostly IBs or is it diverse? Can someone please differentiate (using the strongest of stereotypes) between the diff cultures of TriBeCa and UES? Sorry, I'm just on the fence. Where i live is going to determine in so many ways what my life is going to be like for the next few years.

@truthskr: Relocating from California. Dropping into NY maybe a month early to see some places ..probably meeting w a broker. I've spent time in new york but it's been a while. Fave park is CP. Unfortunately not familiar with the smaller parks. BPC always seemed a little weird.

@Lucille: i'm planning to start a family asap. Already have the person with whom i'd...

@Malthus: Tribeca vs UES? WWYD?

Thanks for the great info everybody!

i say ues. cryptic language aside, you are coming with your wife and getting straight to the babymaking, so hopefully very soon, your life will revolve around a great big pregnant lady. pregnant lady needs (1) a doctor she likes and trusts who delivers at a (2) hospital she likes, ues side has abundant options. pregnant ladies need (3) to get plenty of fresh air, so she will have the options of central park, carl schurz, she can waddle over to john jay playground and watch the kiddies play for a while and then go for a walk along the promenade. (4) pregnant ladies tend to prefer aquatic excersise for several reasons (easier on already swollen joints and feet, always aching back), but mostly because it's fun to splash around in the pool like a happy whale. (don't be offended, i've been that happy whale twice), so asphalt green will be a big part of her life. (5) pregnant lady will eventually become new mommy who pushes around an enormous urban assault vehicle carrying her young. in new york, we have magical elves who will open the door for her, help with bags, and just generally be there should she need help with something reasonable. they're called doormen and they are very special. ues probably has the highest concentration of doorman buildings.

but someone else might make an equally good case for tribeca, so it really depends on who you guys are and how you want to live. good luck with the move and the babymaking!

Lol Lucille. I'm a woman. :)

I know Tribeca well. A better way to answer your question is which street to avoid. I'd say any street is really cool except Chambers. It's a mess. the cool thing about Tribeca is that all Subways are very accessible.....AC 123 45 RW all within a 5-10 min. walk depending on where u live in Tribeca.

smoothmove, you will have to visit both neighborhoods and see for yourself. and imagine living there and going about your business as a giant pg woman who is unfamiliar with the city, and then as a new stressed out mommy. *personally* i would go through the pg and new baby phase uptown, and maybe move downtown once more comfortable in the new york mommy skin, if i really liked downtown. you may prefer this coming from the west coast and maybe taking some creature comforts for granted having not actually done the day in day out in new york. people who don't know may advise you that ues is stuffy and gossip girlesque, but only a small part of it is actually like that, and you don't have to see that if you don't want to.

"@Malthus: Tribeca vs UES? WWYD?"

I moved to Tribeca just as my kid was born so there's your answer. With a second on the way, we plan to stay but it is tempting because you clearly get more for your money uptown, provided you are not expecting to be on the park.

As to one of your specific questions, it actually is the opposite of a pass through in the more desirable parts since a lot of the streets don't get you anywhere. IMO in NYC this is a big plus for quiet, safety, and general QoL. Compare any corner of Greenwich Street in Tribeca and any avenue on the UES and you will know what I mean. This is one of the aspects that gives the WV and parts of Soho their charm.

There are a lot of bankers in Tribeca but that is true for most of Manhattan at this point. There is a Hudson River Mom's group down here that is very helpful for meeting other new moms, exchanging info, etc.

smoothmove

You should be torn. There is no one answer. Im also going to throw more monkey wrenches at you. Your looking to rent. I don't what the statistics are but Im sure more than 50% of renters don't spend more than 4 years in one place. Status changes, needs change, landlords get cocky with increases, etc.
Add to that your a transplant. Tribeca is not the most central to the rest of manhattan you no doubt want to explore. And getting lucky on the first choice of neighborhood is not easy odds.
You've indicated you wanted to start a family fast. That put you at least 5 years from now from worrying about any kind of schools. Tribeca for all its "family" popularity is a good part because of it's school district. Don't get me wrong, I love Tribeca and it is much better for child rearing than Flatiron. But you also have areas close by like Madison Park which has gained in popularity tenfold for families. And it's halfway to work to the UES. Just sayin.......

I take it your partner has little say in the matter? :)

to each their own, but UES and UWS have always been family neighborhoods, much more attuned to families than Tribeca--I walked to school as a boy in NY, and my kids have walked to school--one of the few serious conveniences about living in NYC--school choices exist for Tribeca, but are way limited comared to uptown, and same applies to most other family activities, as looshy sayed

and tribeca chelsea flatiron, etc are way more interesting neighborhoods and there are those who do family down there--but uptown is considered better/easier by many--like looshy sayed, walk around a bit--see what schools and other options will be

if you are doing uptown, try www.nybits.com to rent apts without expense and hassle of brokers--and use this board to get advice on specifc bldgs/negotiations

good luck

"Flatiron is perfectly central to balance work life with social life. Tribeca is great but you will tire of the commutes and the cab fares when your going elsewhere. "

I agree. I like Tribeca, and I was actually looking to move at one point, but to me its still a little distant for most of what matters (at least to me) in this town. Schools are great, yes, but if that isn't a major factor (or you're considering UES), then I think the prices just 'aint worth it relative to a little uptown.

Flatiron has the most similar buildings or prime residential areas I can think of, and it is extremely central, and has a high concentration of good stuff, and just above is probably the hottest area for adding even more.

> If you end up north of 14th street, you'll be better off sticking to living east of 6th ave.

Agreed. To me sweet spot is between 5th and 6th, maybe going over to Park if its below 23rd.

Any updates smoothmove?