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Chris Christie Still Running NJ Into the Ground

Started by Socialist
about 15 years ago
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Despite all the boasting, Gov. Christie has New Jersey in the same fiscal shape as a year ago Today, Governor Christie will have to find a way to close a $10.5 billion structural gap in the state budget he presents to the Legislature. The shortfall represents more than one third of this year's budget — 37 percent. New Jersey's budget is in worse shape than Texas or California or almost every other... [more]
Response by somewhereelse
about 15 years ago
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> espite all the boasting, Gov. Christie has New Jersey in the same fiscal shape as a year ago

Which sounds like a victory given that everywhere is is falling further into the toilet (NY included).

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Response by Socialist
about 15 years ago
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That's because other states properly fund their pensions and don't shift the financial burden onto muncipalities. When the taxes on my McCrapsion went up last year, there was a letter included in the tax bill from the town that bascally said "We had no choice to raise taxes because the governor has saddled us with more expenses."

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Response by alanhart
about 15 years ago
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It should have said "the GOP plan at least since Reagan took over is to cut taxes on the rich at the federal level, then push the resulting problems down to the state level, then cut taxes on the rich there, and shift resulting problems down to the county/town level, then cut taxes there and start harvesting fear and anger to enable even more tax cuts for the rich, at the expense of everyone else. Pay up."

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Response by Socialist
about 15 years ago
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That's true. No arguments here. When the Republicans plan to push expenses down to the state level, they call this "State's Rights." State's Rights ironically was the same defense used to justify slavery and Jim Crow laws. Not sure why Republicans love State's Rights so much... at least use a different term.

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Response by huntersburg
about 15 years ago
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State's perogative?

Commonwealth's rights?

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Response by somewhereelse
about 15 years ago
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> State's Rights ironically was the same defense used to justify slavery

Yeah, by the Democrats.

Like clockwork... Alpo always makes the best arguments against the side he is supporting... as if Alpo being on your side isn't ample evidence you are wrong in the first place.

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Response by Socialist
about 15 years ago
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nice cherry picking my quote. I said "State's Rights ironically was the same defense used to justify slavery AND Jim Crow laws." Except for Eisenhower, Republicans supported Jim Crow laws.

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Response by somewhereelse
about 15 years ago
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"cherry picking", one more thing Alpo doesn't understand.

Alpo, YOU brought up slavery, genius, not me.

WHOOPS!

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Response by MidtownerEast
about 15 years ago
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Well, as might as I like to slag Socialist again, the "Democrats" who were raising those states' rights arguments in the slavery battle were Southern Democrats, akin to Blue Dog Democrats now. Everyone knows (or should know) that the parties switched labels long ago. The Republicans had a progressive wing that started to die right after TR and the Democrats started becoming more progressive heading into the 20th Century (with the populism of WJ Bryan giving way to the progessive Wilson giving way to the modern Democrat FDR). To the extent the labels Republican and Democratic are ever useful or descriptive, they were far less so in the 1830s-60s so you can't draw such a straight line.

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