Osama Bin Laden confirmed DEAD

HOW MUCH?
HOW MUCH MONEY...START TO FINISH?
HOW MUCH MONEY FROM 9/11/2001 until 5/01/2011 DID WE SPEND TO GET THIS GUY?
WAS THAT MUCH MONEY WORTH IT? (it's your tax money, money borrowed from China, money borrowed from you children and grandchildren, money taken from education and social programs).

What did you get?
a dead Al Queda with renal failure living underground...
Before you answer...find out HOW MUCH$?
(unless you think it had to be done at any cost...like rebuilding New Orleans).

"I wonder what a compound like that goes for in an estate sale."

BUY NOW OR BE PRICED OUT OF PAKISTAN FOREVER!!

Kudos to Obama, the administration, the CIA and other intelligence agencies, the Navy Seals and the military for finding bin laden and accomplishing the operation.

Also kudos to the Bush administration for setting up Guantanamo, which was the source of the initial intelligence that led to this.

bjw- maybe I'm just less cynical than you. I saw people cheering USA USA! When I heard the news, I thought back to 9-11, and all we went through back then, and I felt an elation that this country persisted, never gave up the fight, and achieved something amazing to bring justice to this evil man. That is the impression I got from the cheering- pride in the U.S.A.

how much did we spend?

One trillion? Whatever it is, that lump in the throat sure is pricey.

Not so crazy!
Buy the place and turn it into the Muslim fundamental version of Grace land.
It's Genius!
Bin Laden T-Shirts, coffee mugs, Prayer rugs, key chains, Combo-pack: American flag/Bin Laden collector Zippo.
I see a theater, a Madame Trouses wax martyr exhibit, Omer's believe it or not, a 'Branson-East' if you will.
Hotels, rides, attractions....
Six Flags Pakistan
or
Islamokissimmee

however much...and i think its easily 2 trillion and counting....

what else could we have bought with that?

And kudos to Obama for killing one of Gadaffi's sons and his 3 grandkids. Considering the teabaggers think Obama is a secret Muslim, Obama sure likes killing Muslims a lot.

Anwar al-Awlaki is currently the most dangerous terroriast in the world, not Bin Laden. He was arrested in 2002, but Bush let him go. He also served as a Congressional Imam. So thank you Republicans.

This just in: Muslimissimo Martyrissimo Usama bin Laden is still dead.

Bin Laden still has not released his death certificate

shut up

shut up

shut up

columbiacounty, now that Osama is dead, that still leaves us with a pathetic old man who lost all of his money, ruined his past, has no future, and can barely stand to look at himself.

so sorry to hear about your situation. how can we help?

>how much did we spend?

The columbiacounty prescription for America:

1. Sit by idly while you are attacked
2. Say "thank you Sir may I have another" because he wasn't accepted into an eating club in college and still wants to be hazed
3. Allow more attacks and more people to be killed
4. Instead of a culture of high security, have a culture of dealing with constant terrorist attacks
5. Have limited access to energy sources
6. A lack of progress in the United States might mak columbiacounty look relatively better than a progressing society
7. Allow asses like w67thstreet and debugoz and the America hating terrorists to win

>so sorry to hear about your situation. how can we help?

Oh, a sense of humor. Shouldn't you be logged in as alanhart before trying to crack a funny? Humor isn't part of the columbiacounty wretched personality.

as noted...how can we help?

sure seems that you could use any and all help.

>as noted...how can we help?
>sure seems that you could use any and all help.

Uh, maybe you aren't alanhart. Not even remotely funny. Not even "ironic". Try something else.

so sad.

so very sad.

No no no, that's aboutready's line.

What's wrong tonight columbia?

nothing...absolutely nothing.

but for you...is there anything that can be done?

anything?

so sad.

remember columbiacounty is the wretched old man who lost everything personality
aboutready, separate personality, she's the one who is sad, so sad, etc.
and alanhart is the "ironic" one.

What I don't get columbiacounty, is how you and debugoz can be so pro-Bin Laden?

oh yes....

everyone is remembering everything.

poor you.

is there hope?

somewhere?

for you?

oops, you got me.

(good use of short bursts and spacing too, it's like a Haiku).

rest in peace.

you are troubled.

seek help.

Press 1

columbiacounty, please explain: http://streeteasy.com/nyc/talk/search?search=columbiacounty

everyone is pulling for you.

but you have to want it too.

columbiacounty, please explain: http://streeteasy.com/nyc/talk/discussion/23260-columbiacounty-on-suicide-watch-as-more-peo

more evidence of your disturbance.

do you want help or not?

columbiacounty, please explain: http://streeteasy.com/nyc/talk/discussion/26450-bin-laden-can-move-to-my-place-in-columbia-county

columbiacounty, can you explain this: columbiacounty, please explain: http://streeteasy.com/nyc/talk/discussion/26501-i-also-went-to-flight-school-in-columbia-county-and-didnt-learn-how-to-land-the-plane

Good luck.

http://streeteasy.com/nyc/talk/discussion/23233-columbiacounty-im-no-slave-to-truth

Of course the cynic might say that Obama knew where Osama was for some time and went in for political purposes. The compound was so large that everyone in Islamabad had to know. They United States probably found it using Google maps.

if the cynic were to have an agenda, that is.

I am not a cynic, and I really do think everyone should ask themselves, for the purpose of policy going forward from today - how could the political/military leadership of Pakistan possibly NOT have known where Osama bin Laden was living until he was taken out by a secret American mission that they (the Pakistanis) did not know about?

How does that song go? "How long has this been going on?"

I'd say for as much as 10 years.

There are many things that political loudmouths on both sides of the spectrum have been proven to have been gullible fools about in the past few months. There was the theory on one side that radical extremism/terrorist organizations were a political move of desperate last resort for disenfranchised masses in countries ruled by puppets of the West. Wrong. Witness the diversity of the political regimes being rebelled against in "the Arab world."

An interesting sound bite/byte we've had pounded into us during the last Bush Presidency was "give 'em a taste of freedom and it will spread like a virus."

I think this is an interesting idea that needs to be explored, say, in a tightly controlled scientific test tube like, oh, I dunno, maybe India's arch enemy, the nuclear wannabe military dictatorship of Pakistan?

Any ideas?

By the way, Obama constantly surprises. He was always obviously very intelligent, but this sneak attack on a supposed ally's soil was....... brilliant.

Even Fox news gave Obama sincere credit last night and then back-peddled with Bush set the precedent or whatever. Still, I wouldn't mess with Obama and Hillary. They are clearly not playing any games. By waiting and not jumping in half-cocked, is still a better stratagy than the recklessness of Iraq in 2003. Remember, neither Obama or Hillary have any connection with Haliburton. Oh, now it get it.

RS -- So Obama has known where Bin Laden was for several months but shrewdly decided to take a thumping in November 2010 and then take constant lumps over the next few months rather than using the knowledge for political benefit earlier? Your suggestion that the administration waited for "political purposes" is one of the dumbest things you have ever said and that is a very high bar indeed.

don't forget carlyle, bill--they need serious performance to carry their 2 and 20

spot-on midtowner--barack/hillary vs repugnantcan agenda-driven tailwag timing: iran hostage crisis--iraq while OBL sashayed outta tora bora--a long list can be constructed

Upon further reflection, i was much, much too easy on dbd. once again, job well done. NWT the bill is coming your way. such a pity.

well now we can look forward to the 60 minutes promotional tour.

Tax rates same as 2003-2008.

Gitmo still open.

Troops still in iraq, Afghanistan and Libya.

Enhanced interrogation techniques still yielding kills.

Military still shooting unarmed terrorist instead of reading miranda right.

I didn't know Bush had a third term.

Yes Julia, it appears the education of Obama was quite timely and he is a quicker study than anticipated.
He may have to run as an independent next term.

I still don't like the humane death Osama received.
They should have tied him up on a wheel of chance in a Vegas hotel, every victim family memeber that wants a spin with numbers to indicate how many times you get to peel a piece a skin off him with a nail clipper. Afterwhich, you tie him in the lobby of the next scheduled vegas hotel demolition (preferably New york, New York) and let her rip.

Let me get this straight...
We could have forgone Afghanistan and Iraq and simply waited for the Intel necessary to pop Ben Laden above the left eye.
Now that's a plan!
This country is too action oriented...patience and fortitude...that's what we lack.
We should have attacked Mexico. It's closer, it's got better food, the people are friendly and, when it turned into a safe normal democracy it would have made an even better place to vacation.
Anyone been to the Club Med in Abboutabob?
If Osama was hiding in Abboutabob is the next town Costellostan?

AND they have our oil, too.

I don't really see how we could get mad at Pakistan.
It's not that the accusation holds no water, its that the situation in Pakistan is the worst kept
secret in politics. Almost like getting mad at your spouse cheating for the 100th time.

This is rich:
"The Pakistani government lashed out at the American raid that killed Osama bin Laden, saying that the United States made “an unauthorized unilateral action” that would be not be tolerated in the future."

And, in related news:
"The population of the world, long expected to stabilize just above nine billion in the middle of the century, will instead keep growing and may hit 10.1 billion by the year 2100, the United Nations projected in a report released Tuesday morning."

Abboutabob & Costellostan meet Osama Ben Monster (Hey AAAAAAAAAAAAbbout)

Sorry...just love the joke.

Hey Osama. whose on first?

We should take out the Pakistani govt. and then take all their oil. Oh wait, they have no il. Surely they have somethign we can take...

They have our tandoori ... we must liberate it.

they have our cab drivers

we have plenty of tandoori. we don't need no stinkin' pakistani tandoori.

awesome. simply freakin' awesome. no wonder RS and Rush (note the similarities) are in such a dither.

just a joke, btw. no offense intended to pakistanis near and far (although their f'ng gov't can ...)

i say three trill gets a heckuva a lot of takeout tandoori, maybe they can throw in some naan too.

http://ktmcfarland.com/2010/08/04/is-pakistan-playing-both-sides-in-the-afghanistan-war/

paki got a bomb--check into that

falco, you know the Mets now have a Chinlung Hu on the team.
Conversation with nephews this weekend was; nephew A: "Hu's on second," nephew B: "I don't know," and I yelled out "Third base!"
Unfortunately only my brother laughed and I couldnt believe today's youth with all the internet and youtube access and who play baseball didnt know what we were laughing about.

Falco as I am likely your or close to your generation, I imagine you spent every 11am or 12pm sunday watching Abbott and Costello rerun as well. (along with the little rascals)

Why is this news about Pakistan? The troops have been complained about raids originating from Pakistan for many years now. Raid into Afghanistan AND Iraq. Common knowledge over there. We just won't mess with them because they have nukes.

They are scheming scoundrels and thieves. I'm SO HAPPY we send them $1.5 billion a year! Oh, goody!

This bit of brilliance from Kerry (via Bloomberg news)

"Democratic Senator John Kerry of Massachusetts, an architect of a 2009 bill committing $1.5 billion annually to Pakistan for five years, called for a new round of hearings to “assess the strategic relationship” between the two countries and to examine how to arrive at an “acceptable end-state” in Afghanistan."

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-05-04/pakistan-stocks-fall-most-in-ten-weeks-on-u-s-aid-risk-concern.html

Kerry is an idiot. And I'm a Democrat.

Front Line had a great special on this. Apparently Pakistan turns in members of one Taliban cell and turns a blind eye to another cell. This is well known to the Afhans, Pakistanis , the CIA and the entire intelligence community. What' we're seeing now in the media is strictly for public consumption.

Water-boarding provided the initial tip that resulted in obama's greatest
achievement.. What's the left to do?

"Water-boarding provided the initial tip that resulted in obama's greatest
achievement.. What's the left to do?"

Citation?

In fact, the only person involved who was actually waterboarded provided false information: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/04/us/politics/04torture.html?hp

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCdAqPCc3dw

The regime in it's own words jordyn.....

"Did the information come because KSM was waterboarded, or could you say that KSM was waterboarded at one point in time, and he provided key information at another point in time? There's just enough fog there to allow everyone to walk out of this with a fact he or she likes."

http://www.slate.com/id/2292910/
http://www.slate.com/id/2292778/

Worth reading both pieces, julia. Of course the politically-motivated will ignore that and immediately assume direct cause and effect. What a load of malarkey.

"Apparently Pakistan turns in members of one Taliban cell and turns a blind eye to another cell. This is well known to the Afhans, Pakistanis , the CIA and the entire intelligence community"

Mm hmm, and finally someone decided to work around Pakistan instead of "with" Pakistan. Oh, watch the protestations of innocence coming out of Pakistan now. They all sound familiar, don't they?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCdAqPCc3dw

The regime better scrub this video real soon.. In the CIA director's own words.

The left can't spin this one.

Panetta says that harsh interrogation techniques were used on some detainees. Note that the Times article points out that there were a variety of techniques used, but of the relevant folks only KSM was waterboarded. From what I've read, he basically provided no useful information.

So, maybe you can make the claim that "harsh interrogation techniques" helped develop some of the intelligence. But I've read absolutely nothing to indicate that waterboarding helped at all, and Panetta doesn't say so either. In fact, as is made clear from the Times article, the more we used harsh techniques, the less reliable the responses were. The main thing we figured out from those guys is that since they were still lying about the courier even after being tortured that the courier must be really important. It's a real stretch of the imagination to call that a success on behalf of torture policy.

The initial tip of ubl's courier came from water-boarding. The Times and the left can spin it all they want. jordyn.. please be honest.

"The initial tip of ubl's courier came from water-boarding."

Citation?

julia, the real spin is this "ends justify the means" crap when it simply can't be proven that the means in question had anything to do with the end. I heard that one time, Bo (Obama's dog) relieved himself on a map of Pakistan, spot on Abbottabad. He should definitely be given credit for that tip, and we should therefore extradite Cesar Milan, for fear of missing out on such intelligence in the future.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCdAqPCc3dw

In the CIA's directors own words..A liberal democrat, not a right-wing fanatic.

Julia, have you actually listened to that clip?

To save you the time, I'll make you a transcript of the relevant section.

WILLIAMS: Are you denying waterboarding was in part among the tactics that was used to extract the intelligence that led to this successful mission?

PANETTA: No, I think some of the detainees clearly were--they used these enhanced interrogation techniques against some of these detainees.

You assertion that "The initial tip of ubl's courier came from water-boarding" is not corroborated by that discussion at all.

So, since we're just making wild unsupported assertions, I'm going with the ghost of JFK came and whispered the name in Obama's ear.

Julia, Panetta is admitting some detainees were tortured, not that the tip came from torture. Torture has been shown repeatedly to be completely ineffective at getting accurate information (either that, or there were an awful lot of witches between the 13th and 17th century.)
Honestly, this whole thread is shameful: are you a New Yorker or a roach? we catch Bin ladin and you're fucking whining about the fucking left? Shut your piehole, internet pinhead.

Neither. She's a right-wing hate-radio-listening housewife from New Jersey.

scarey.............

julia...i'll ask again...shouldn't you have stayed in a bit longer?

We got Bin Laden. We should do a deal with Russia who has the issue of illegal drugs grown in Afghanistan to worry about.

And if this is not possible we should focus on relations with India and forget about Pakistan. We can't be everywhere.

How about a lavish State reception for the Indian leader, in DC, complete with red carpets, banquets toasting the unique role India has to the US, not inviting anyone from the Pakistani embassy?

maybe a new "reality" show: desperate housewives of shunned diplomats.

naw........ a reality show that follows the lives of Osama bin Laden's former neighbors in Abbott-Land who "didn't know." Gee, what other historical scandals have involved lots and lots and lots of people in one country saying, "we didn't know"?

Oooo, and this just in - Pakistan warns US not to do anything like that again! How DARE the US presume to think that their ally has anything to hide from them!