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bars on 1st floor casement windows?

Started by Smartestartist
almost 14 years ago
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Member since: Feb 2012
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Hi, I just signed a lease on a first floor apartment in Williamsburg, Brooklyn. The apartment has windows only on the front of the building facing the street, and they consist of three tall 26"x67" casement windows. Two of them open with a crank to the outside and the center window is just a pane that doesn't open. Even though I'm in a great neighborhood, I am not comfortable going without bars or... [more]
Response by drdrd
almost 14 years ago
Posts: 1905
Member since: Apr 2007

Possibly you could have wrought iron boxes installed so that the windows would open out into them. There is also some sort of release mechanism that might be installed to release the bars & provide egress in case of an emergency. You'd need to talk to a security gates fabricator/installer. You first need permission from the LL to make any alterations to the premises, I assume. It might be easier & cheaper(?) to just change the windows to a more secure type. I can't imagine why you signed a lease without first solving this huge security concern, but there you are. Good luck.

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Response by front_porch
almost 14 years ago
Posts: 5316
Member since: Mar 2008

In the '80s we used to have wrought iron window gates on the inside of our (non-casement) windows, and one had both a key and a fingertip control for fire egress. Can't imagine that they'd be cheap -- I would expect maybe a few hundred bucks per window? but they should also work with casements.

The problem might be that casements tend to freeze up if you don't use them, so you'd have to get in the habit of opening your gate and then your casement once a week as a fire drill.

ali r.
DG Neary Realty

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Response by Smartestartist
almost 14 years ago
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Member since: Feb 2012

Thanks for the advice. I've found a good option here: http://www.safe-tots.com/cgi-bin/shopper.cgi?preadd=action&key=0002-03-0002&reference=/cgi-bin/shopper.cgi%3Fsearch%3Daction%26keywords%3DVertical-Window-Guards%26searchstart%3D0%26template%3DTemplates/SearchResult.html

Now it's just a matter of getting the landlord to purchase and install them, or doing it myself otherwise.

I signed the lease and asked the landlord at the time I signed it about installing bars, and she mentioned the windows had to be kept clear for egress. This was a lease on a super inexpensive 80/20 building so I was very eager to sign before they moved on to someone else. It is worth paying to do the job myself in regards to the bars if it means I have a 35 year rent stabilized affordable lease on a brand new apartment.

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