bars on 1st floor casement windows?
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Hi, I just signed a lease on a first floor apartment in Williamsburg, Brooklyn. The apartment has windows only on the front of the building facing the street, and they consist of three tall 26"x67" casement windows. Two of them open with a crank to the outside and the center window is just a pane that doesn't open. Even though I'm in a great neighborhood, I am not comfortable going without bars or... [more]
Hi, I just signed a lease on a first floor apartment in Williamsburg, Brooklyn. The apartment has windows only on the front of the building facing the street, and they consist of three tall 26"x67" casement windows. Two of them open with a crank to the outside and the center window is just a pane that doesn't open. Even though I'm in a great neighborhood, I am not comfortable going without bars or guards of some sort on these windows as they would be very easy to break into, especially when they are left open during the summer. I know that the landlord has to install child window guards if you ask them to, and I figured these would do just fine as a deterrent to thieves. I mentioned this today when I signed the lease and the landlord said that they windows need to be kept clear as a secondary means of egress in the event of a fire. When I looked it up, the law states that only one window in a first floor apartment is "legally exempt" from having child window guards. I'm not sure if that means they HAVE to leave one without guards, or that's the most that they can leave without guards. Anyone know? If the child guards don't work out, I'm willing to pay to install something on my own. However, I don't think the traditional wrought iron gates on the outside would work since the windows open out and the bars would get in the way. I have never seen casement windows on a first floor apartment in NYC before -- does anyone have any suggestions? Thank you! [less]
Possibly you could have wrought iron boxes installed so that the windows would open out into them. There is also some sort of release mechanism that might be installed to release the bars & provide egress in case of an emergency. You'd need to talk to a security gates fabricator/installer. You first need permission from the LL to make any alterations to the premises, I assume. It might be easier & cheaper(?) to just change the windows to a more secure type. I can't imagine why you signed a lease without first solving this huge security concern, but there you are. Good luck.
In the '80s we used to have wrought iron window gates on the inside of our (non-casement) windows, and one had both a key and a fingertip control for fire egress. Can't imagine that they'd be cheap -- I would expect maybe a few hundred bucks per window? but they should also work with casements.
The problem might be that casements tend to freeze up if you don't use them, so you'd have to get in the habit of opening your gate and then your casement once a week as a fire drill.
ali r.
DG Neary Realty
Thanks for the advice. I've found a good option here: http://www.safe-tots.com/cgi-bin/shopper.cgi?preadd=action&key=0002-03-0002&reference=/cgi-bin/shopper.cgi%3Fsearch%3Daction%26keywords%3DVertical-Window-Guards%26searchstart%3D0%26template%3DTemplates/SearchResult.html
Now it's just a matter of getting the landlord to purchase and install them, or doing it myself otherwise.
I signed the lease and asked the landlord at the time I signed it about installing bars, and she mentioned the windows had to be kept clear for egress. This was a lease on a super inexpensive 80/20 building so I was very eager to sign before they moved on to someone else. It is worth paying to do the job myself in regards to the bars if it means I have a 35 year rent stabilized affordable lease on a brand new apartment.