Carnegie Hill

so youre thinking youll get in early before carnegie hill gentrifies??

Of course it has already gentrified. It's like the definition of gentrified. I mean are there young people there ...

if it seems like you may get a discount it means you are looking in upper yorkville not carnegie hill

It's a 55 and up community. You can't live here even if you wanted to. Sure, your not going to see signs like 'Youngs to the back of the bus' or 'NYA' (no youngs allowed). Those days of outward prejudice are now under the table. They will smile and say nice to meet you at the coop interview but as you leave your app goes in the garbage.
We all know, children carry disease.

If young means no kids yet, then it's more a function of the available housing stock. Look at the current sale listings:

9 studios
44 one-bedrooms
97 two or more bedrooms

if only they'd put a school or two on carnegie hill, some young couples might move their and age things down a bit--and there's not park nearby or anything which would attract young families--it's no wonder it's essentially a geriatric ward

Fake Carnegie Hill, AKA [East Harlem that SE wants to call "Upper Carnegie Hill"] is gentrifying slowly, but not so much with YOUNG people. There are young people (and by "young" I assume you mean NON-black NON-Latino college-educated young people] moving in at a rapid pace from the North side of 96th all the way up to 125th in the newer rental buildings and condos-turned rentals in East Harlem.

But ACTUAL Carnegie Hill has been a fancy neighborhood for longer than any of us have been alive, so their are NO bargains whatsoever. Whatever bargains you are seeing are ACTUALLY Yorkville or more likely East Harlem. And yes the 2nd Ave subway will make those areas more valuable. Even if it does not get built above 96th, a bus from say 2nd/104th to 96th and then a subway ride would be MUCH easier than a bus ride all the way down.

Wrong! Carnegie Hill had gotten quite seedy in the 1950s and 1960s, and a deliberate effort was made to fight blight there.

and by "young" I assume you mean NON-black NON-Latino college-educated young people]

I can't believe Jason gets away with saying that

He gets a pass, because he heils from a State where it's cold and it's damp.

http://www.hark.com/mad-men/trudy-found-an-apartment-that-she-likes

Pete: Trudy found an apartment that she likes.
Pete's Mom: Did she? Whereabouts?
Pete: 83rd and Park. Very nice.
Pete's Dad: Are you sure you want to be that far uptown?
Pete: It's not that far, Dad.
Pete's Dad: It falls off after 79th.
Pete's Mom: No, darling. They fall off after 86th.

They buy it ($30K, for those crass enough to ask), but of course they later move to the country (Cos Cob).

We're a little bit east of carnage hill...90's btwn 3rd and 2nd, and there are lots of young families where we are...our building is 1-4 bdrm apts. and there are tons of people in their 20's and young families. You'll also get more for your money east of carnegie hill seeing as it's less fancy than carnegie hill. There are some families in carnegie hill but especially on park ave. there are a lot of elderly people, so I'd actually recommend going a bit east of carnegie hill. 3rd has great restaurants and 86 btwn 3rd and lex has lots of shopping. It's a bit of a hike from the park though, but the 96 or 86 bus will take you right to fifth.