Its 70 degrees and sunny in San Francisco

high 70s in San Jose.

http://www.accuweather.com/en/us/san-jose-ca/95110/daily-weather-forecast/347630

Mid 70s in Marin County.

http://www.accuweather.com/en/us/san-jose-ca/95110/weather-forecast/347630

Go somewhereelse.

Who cares?

Oh, nooooo, jason10006, please don't move back to California (which is cold & its damp) ASAP. We like so totally need you here. Who else in Manhattan drinks milk? Who else is at just that right point in the autism spectrum? Who else is a recovering Montgomery Ward fashion victim?

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Brooks this has been a silly side debate here for five years - which city is colder. The Bay Area might have pockets of 60 degree July weather, but it never snows and its often 70-90 degrees from Sept- Nov and mostly over 60 all winter long - with a lot less rain than NYC and NO SNOW.

... hate California ... it's cold and it's damp.

Weather may be bright, but the people are dim. SF is a decent city but lets be real, it is a big step down from NYC.

Everything about it, from the mono culture, white bread brogrammers. Everyone looks the same. Very easy to define the SF 'type', where in NYC is so much more diverse it is difficult to pigeonhole the city.

oh damn.

here i was hoping.

I used to live there. It's warmer.

confirmed.

San Francisco is just an airplane ride away for anyone who wants.

jason, it's not that serious.

SF has been majority non white longer than NYC has - WTF? Brogrammers? Idiot.

That's incorrect, jason10006. Non-Hispanic Whites and Hispanic Whites combined total 57% of Frisco's population.

And besides, Tomnevers said "white bread" (which goes with drinking-milk, btw), not "white".

Don't be fucking stupid. When I said "white" I meant non-Hispanic white. NO ONE would call the large Mexican-american population in SF "white" or "bros" or "whitebread."

...Nor would you call the roughly 1 in 5 adults who self-identify as LGBTQ as "bros." Straight, white males of any age make up less than 25% of the city, and of the "bro" age maybe 5% at most.

So you're just going to pick off all the groups of people who self-identify as white and exclude them because of your own extreme bias? Do you really think white Gays don't self-identify as white? They're all banished from the family model and can't be "bros"? What about Neil Patrick Harris, the leader of his bro gang and also an in-everyones-face member of The Gays? How about Emilio Estevez? Not white enough for you?

Frisco is solidly whitebread, and "brogrammers" is an apt description. Thanks, Tomnevers!

Plus California -- it's cold and it's damp.

For quite some time, I've found Jason's racism rivaling only w67th's. w67th's racism is more dangerous, but jason lets his show more frequently.

Its 64 degrees in SF right now. 69 in San Jose.

And yet, the worst thing about being in New York is that you are here.

"Do you know the way to San Jose?"

Jason, SF is always warm in the fall, which is their warmest time of year. Check the temps in spring and summer when it is much colder than NYC.

Newbie: Please don't get jason started on that.
It's a touchy subject for him.
It's chilly, cooler but not actual cold(er).

I'm from San Francisco dummy. The average weather is way better. That's my whole point.

Sf is incredibly boring.

How is the weather again?

Leaving SFO now after a weekend. The SFBA - it's been 70 degrees and sunny all weekend, now for 28 degree NYC.

Don't board that plane! Ever!!!

Jason, checked in with your Probation Officer?

Maybe there for a protest against American energy independence?
http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Thousands-rally-in-S-F-against-pipeline-4286432.php

I like SF but I was there last week and it was in the mid 50's. That is cerainly better than NYC right now but it's still jacket weather. If I were to be enticed to move right now it would be to be able to shead my jacket. There is a good restaurant scene in SF and a nice vibe but with only 800K people and mosly low rise buildings other than a few blocks downtown, I think it compares more to Brooklyn rather than NYC as a whole.

It's the most densely populated large city west of New Jersey so it's about as dense as you'll get anywhere else in the US. 800k people on 49 square miles PLUS an 1100 acre park AND another 1400 acre park PLUS another thousand acres of smaller parks.

THE most dense...if you count small cities west of the East Coast is actually West Hollywood (which is an fact a seperate city from LA.) Fun fact.

Not fun, and not a fact. Maywood, Cudahy & Huntington Park, all in California (which is cold and it's damp) are more densely populated then West Hollywood.

And I would not characterize Frisco, at under a million souls, as a large city.

I was in the east Bay Area for a week in December. I always had to wear my winter coat and at night it was in the thirties. The week after we left, it got much colder. And in August, you can be wearing a turtleneck and long pants.

SF is a cute little town. Several cities on the planet have the energy of NYC but San Francisco is not one of them. I'm not a big fan of Chicago, but even Chicago is less boring than San Francisco. I'd rather be here right now with zero wind chill than in any other city in the USA.

Two words for those who think SF is better than NYC:

Loma Prieta

I am not arguing its better or worse. Just that, on average, its got a lot better weather than NYC. I lived their for my first 29 years and I speak from experience.

And Loma Prieta was a 100 miles away, and did a LOT less damage than Sandy, both in terms of casualties (like a TINY fraction) and dollar damage.

I had a front-row seat for both Loma Prieta and Superstorm Sandy. If I had to live through one of them again, I'd take Sandy any time. Loma Prieta saw 63 killed and 3,757 injured; Sandy saw 147 killed but far less injured, so LP was hardly "a fraction" of SS.

The epicenter of Loma Prieta was 60 miles from San Francisco's Marina District, which was significantly trashed, not to mention major damage all over the city and transportation infrastructure meltdown. The impact on the Bay Area was catastrophic. As to doing "a LOT" less damage than Sandy, where's your source for that? At the time, LP was the most expensive disaster in US history. Sandy was no walk in the park but the impact on the metropolitan infrastructure was nothing like Loma Prieta. Sandy brought more damage overall but spread over a much wider area.

And the kicker is -- a repeat of a Loma Prieta-like quake can happen any time. A repeat of Sandy is much less likely. As well, the impact from Loma Prieta was much more concentrated than Sandy. So, yes, more people died in Sandy, but that's counting multiple states and even countries.

You must have been in another universe from me. I'd take LP over sandy easily. And are you kidding? We won't have another hurricane when we had one a year earlier?

And I was there for both too. And LP.

Sandy II is coming any day now. Any day now. Feel free to leave. It's coming. I swear.

Also I think you are totally mixing up Northridge, which cost $42B in 1994, with LP, which cost $12B in in 1989. It was NORTHRIDGE that was so expensive, because the epicenter was inside Los Angeles City Limits.

Or something like that

>Also I think you are totally mixing up Northridge, which cost $42B in 1994, with LP, which cost $12B in in 1989.
>Or something like that

eh, what's $30 billion among taxpayers?

I experienced both LP and Northridge. Northridge was not as serious of a quake but cost more because it was in a much larger city, not because of the epicenter location. Had an earthquake the size of LP occurred in LA, the costs would've been much higher. Remember, LP was the worst quake to hit California since 1906 and nothing has matched it since in the Golden State. I remember going down the street in the Marina District and building after building had collapsed and pancaked. That was pretty rare in LA after Northridge.

I didn't say we wouldn't have another hurricane. We are not likely to have a *superstorm* like Sandy. It wasn't just a hurricane. It was a convergence of three storm systems.

I loved living in California and love visiting. But I'm not foolish enough to think it's Nirvana. All things considered, no part of California can hold a candle to NYC if you're looking for a vibrant urban lifestyle.

The climatologists say storms like Sandy will be more common in the future. And I experienced LP like most in the Bay Area - zero damage. Berkeley, like 99% of the SFBA, was unscathed. Even most of SF and even most land fill areas were unscathed. Sandy damage was MUCH more widespread.

It's a free country. Climatologists are free to say what they want, and those who rely on them to move where they want.

"Berkeley, like 99% of the SFBA, was unscathed."

Pardon my French, but you don't have a f**king clue what you're talking about:

http://preview.tinyurl.com/at8sqtp

The Bay Bridge was severely damaged.
Berkeley relies on the Bay Bridge for transport into the city.

That's why we had to cancel a big benefit concert in San Francisco, in the aftermath of that quake.

(but jason has had me on "ignore" for an unspecified amount of time, so he won't be reading this comment.)

Would C0lumbia C0unty be a good alternative if one was concerned about earthquakes?

where could you avoid trolls---huntersburg?

greensdale?

or best of all

hfscomm1?

C0lumbia C0unty?
Williamsburgh?
Tacoma, Washington?

Tacoma leads to Williamsburghcoma.

Mediocrity leads to Bay Ridge.

And Bay Ridge leads to the Bay Bridge, bringing us back to San Francisco!

or Maryland

Mediocrity leads to being an bored, frustrated, unemployable housewife living in Williamsburg.
She's unable to learn how to drive.
So she takes her frustration and resentment out on me.

I've learned how to drive, have my own cash to purchase in Maui, am learning to paint and play musical instruments. I live my life, while not posting comments on streeteasy, nor complaining on streeteasy about the weather in NYC ("sucks") and complaining about: "can't wait to get the fuck out".

"Mediocrity" is above and beyond her ability.

"am learning to paint and play musical instruments"

... occupational therapy is an important part of your treatment plan. Godspeed.

^^More from the troll^^.
He just can't stop trying in vain to start a fight with me on streeteasy.

Those were not pictures of Berkely.

"Those were not pictures of Berkely."

It's Berkeley, not Berkely.

That aside, you said "99% of the SFBA. . .was unscathed."

Those are pictures of the SFBA, which we can easily see was not "unscathed."

But enough about earthquakes.

Let's talk about fires. Let's talk about the Oakland Hills Fire of 1991. It started in the Berkeley Hills. It started as a minor fire on a Saturday and was mostly extinguished. On Sunday, however, it roared back to life and, in a twelve-hour timespan, destroyed 3,354 single-family homes and 437 apartments. At least twenty-five people died.

That's true. The weather is still better. And I went to Cal so I know how to spell the name of city. People make typos. Big fucking whoop.

Thought they taught clerical accuracy at Berkley College.

No you didn't. You know full well that it's a place in Boston where the people learn how to be jazz vocalists.

Alan - Governor Moonbeam or Governor Cuomo?

I'm not sure what either has to do with Barkley, so can I answer "Busby"?

If the Internet had been around in Einstein's day, people would have "disproved" General Relativity in the comments section because he had typos in the paper.

Leave it to Jason to equate himself with Einstein.

I love how even on IMDB people argue over trivial stuff, but TOTALLY disprove everthing because of a typo.

"Avatar made the most money of any movie of all time, and even adjusted for infation, is in the top 20, according to boxoffice moho."

"HAAAA!!!! You IDIOT!!!! Its "INFLATION" and "MOJO"!!!!! You cannot even spell, how can you expect us to believe your so-called "facts" about movies!!!!!!!!!"

It don't gotta be Einstein.

Leave it to Jason to equate himself with a fake character / avatar.

Well truth, I have a loving husband and children I need to consider when I make significant decisions, such as moving. Lucky you, you don't.

But you tried awfully hard to get spinny.

Aboutready, we are glad to hear that husband + children > saving on taxes.

"People make typos."

In my experience, having known a fair number of UC Berkeley graduates, they become rather prickly when the city is misspelled.

As for better weather in California, it depends on one's perspective.

It's often very rainy this time of year in the Golden State, and that triggers the massive mudslides.

Not too many mudslides on the UES.

It's hard to believe jason went to Cal, considering he's such an asshole and douchebag.

Everyone I know who went to Cal is down-to-earth and normal.

Yeah, he sounds very UCLA. Plus somewhere on the autism spectrum.

"Everyone I know who went to Cal is down-to-earth and normal."

You would not say that if you actually went there. Or had actually BEEN there. Ever. Normal?

Surprisingly, I have to agree with Jason on that last point.

Dont blame the fact that you went to Cal on the fact you are the biggest punk on this board

When exactly did I do that?

become the biggest asshole? It's been a while.

No, when did I blame that or anything on me going to Cal? And the weather is still way better there, my being the worst person in the world aside.

70 degrees in Marin County. Swell. Comparing NYC to San Francisco is pointless; they're two different animals with either offering enough draw if you can afford it. As for the weather, it gets plenty cold in SF .. not just during the 'normally' cold summer months, but in the winter. The reason? Wood construction and generally inefficient heating, drafty Victorian windows, and a damper cold. In NYC you know it's coming and prepare differently. That said, I prefer SF summers .. if you want dry heat just drive north to Marin for a fifteen degree bump, and if you need more keep heading to Sonoma. At least when you get home it will be cool enough to sleep without incurring high AC bills.

It doesn't cost that much for a 1 way ticket to San Francisco.