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Open House Anecdotes - 4/13 - NON-UWS

Started by tenemental
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Pardon the delayed post. Saw a bunch yesterday: LES, East/Central/West Village, Chelsea. Great day for a bike ride. Kylewest has a typically well written post of OHs in similar areas on the UWS OH thread. I started this in case some downtown low-enders aren’t reading that one. 237 Eldridge St. apt 3/4 $550k $980 maint (NY Times only): A 3br/2 bath in 100% shit condition claiming to be 1000sf. I’m... [more]
Response by kylewest
over 18 years ago
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I'll repost this here. I didn't even notice the other one was headed "UWS." My bad.

GREENWICH VILLAGE and CHELSEA:

105 W 13 St, 14E: $1,235,000/$1891(!) maintenance. New listing. At 13th and 6th Ave. Pro: real 2 bdrm/2 bath in decent shape with good views and light, kitchen can have small table for a.m. coffee. Cons: claustrophobic low ceilings, high maintenance, washing machine is in kitchen and has no dryer; very awkward closet in master bd-room; very average slightly homely building. My take: Knock out the second bedroom, remove the extra shower and open up the kitchen and you have a 1/2-way decent 1-bedroom but at $1.235MM and high maintenance, I'm not sure this will sell right away mostly because of the low ceilings and high maintenance.

306 W 13 St, #5: $895,000/$904 maint. New listing. At 8th Ave and W 4 St. Pros: Very 'Village,' renovated kitchen and bathroom, nice floors. Cons: 4th floor walkup; some broken glass tiles on bathroom wall, somewhat quirky/awkward bedroom nook configuration with huge sliding dividers that may not be to every buyer's taste; television and audio built into tight corner and would take a contractor to alter; view from bedroom is through sliver b/w buildings of Luke Oil gas station on 8th Ave. Bottom line: may appeal to spry single person who loves Village quirkiness and charm of squeaky narrow stairs leading to ample-sized apartment they don't have to do much to.

29 Perry St, 4R: $1.3MM/$1080 maint. New listing. Pros: pre-war arches and moldings, nice light, cool window in livingroom; baronial decorative fireplace in medieval inspired lobby (no doorman). Cons: walkup, tight for two people (although perfect for one). Opinion: may want to play with configuration of bedrooms to make one larger and one office. Doesn't work as true two bedroom because apt too small for grown kid and no one with a baby would want to walk up this far with a tot while toting a carriage and groceries. Expensive.

29 W 15 St., PH 10B: $1.1MM/$888 maint. B/w 5&6 Ave. Pros: rooftop deck comes with apartment along with private storage closet and washer/dryer off public hall outside apt. Cons: Kitchen and bath need total renovation; bedrooms tiny and narrow. IMHO: This apt need a lot of work--must reconfigure it to make it work by moving bathroom and combining two tiny bedrooms. I think it's expensive because it requires about $150,000 and still will have narrow bedroom; rooftop is nice and special though.

10 W 15 St., PH F: $1,295,000/maint $1112. Off Fifth Ave. Pros: Awesome light and narrow but sunny wrap around terrace for plantings and outdoor dining (at small table); high quality construction of built-ins with total top to bottom renovation with finishes that will appeal to most buyers; large walk-in storage closet. Cons: So designed that you cannot put much of a mark on the style without tearing out built ins which cover every wall. Assessment: fabulous bachelor pad; could work for a couple; great if you don't want to do a thing, but you'll pay for someone else having done it for you.

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Response by kylewest
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P.S. Thanks for starting this thread, tenemental.

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Response by KISS
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ten,

What are you referring to by the "rougher part" of the WV, and by "ground zero for the West Village thugs and hustlers making their way between the piers, PATH train and subway"?

I have been looking in the WV, among other downtown areas, but clearly I am not as familiar with that area as you are. Can you pls elaborate?

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Response by kylewest
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The 6th Precinct which covers GV has some "hotspots" when it comes to crime and the western part of Christopher falls within that zone. Notably, though for years, including this year, most violent crime is down even in those areas and this year alone the most common violent crimes--robbery and felony assault are down significantly. Oddly, though, burglaries and car thefts have spiked significantly this year in the 6th Pct. and so far 3 rapes have been reported versus just 1 for 2007. FWIW...

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Response by Susanbnyc
over 18 years ago
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A 2BR PREWAR CONDO on Perry St just west of Bleecker under $1M. Sunblasted and bright; check. Renovated; check. The catch - there isn't one!!

The catch....? All of the windows from this GROUND FLOOR look out into the alley between the building an the next...and that's where the GARBAGE gets stored. I'm sure the aroma in the summer is lovely!

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Response by kylewest
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Bad recipe for rodent problems.

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Response by tenemental
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My pleasure, kylewest. I was very surprised to see crime stats, maybe two years ago, that showed the West Village having significantly more crime than the East Village. Getting to know this particular stretch explained a lot. KISS, if you Google "165 Christopher St" you'll find links to many Villager articles, etc., that talk about the problems. If you're considering this area, visit around midnight on a warm night and walk Christopher from the subway station to the water. The pier itself seems almost off-limits at night if you're not part of the crowd. Neighbors complain about some pretty nasty stuff going on on their doorsteps. I'll spare you a description here; the articles aren't hard to find.

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Response by kylewest
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DO NOT try tenemental's experiment unless you want to be one of the NYPD CompStat statistics.

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Response by KISS
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ten/kylewest,

Appreciate the extra color and advice. Midnight is way past my bedtime anyways.

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Response by khd
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Even my last broker wouldn't recommend my looking at 165 Christopher because of everything that was said here. You go 2 blocks and it is a different story (much nicer), but that is NYC for you.

tenemental: you must have had quite the OH day! Sounds exhausting! Thanks for the report!

I went to no OHs partly because it is such a pain to find them through the NYT. I complained to NYT and they said they have received a lot of complaints and are working on fixing the site. Fingers crossed...

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Response by tenemental
over 18 years ago
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Yes, kylewest, good advice. I should have included such a warning. I've done it myself, figuring I'd rather get mugged before buying a place than after when it was too late. The worst I got was a guy blowing smoke in my face as I walked past Chi Chi's (sp?).

khd, you're welcome. There were three buildings with 2 OHs ea., and three units were from a previous week, so it wasn't quite as tough as it looks. The bike was essential. I found typing the report much more exhausting :)

As bad as the NY Times search engine has become, the open house filter works on map view, or whatever it's called, and though you can only go neighborhood by neighborhood, the price and size filters work as well. The bummer, of course, is the redundancy, as the same apt may show up under Greenwich Village/West Village/Far West Village/Chelsea, but if you're only looking at open houses, it's not impossible.

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Response by Amity95
over 18 years ago
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I wonder if the "catch" at 2BR prewar condo on Perry St is the same problem with the 3BR 2bath at 42 W 9th St: http://www.streeteasy.com/nyc/sale/215028-42-w-9th-street-greenwich-village-manhattan. Even though it is at parlor level and below (with a very strange layout), it looks like a beautifully renovated apt in prime Gold Coast location. Originally listed at $2,995,000 in January 2006, it has since gone through 3 more brokers and 13 price chops to its latest listing with a fourth broker last week at $1,795,000. Seems well-priced! Does anyone know why isn't it selling? Is there a rodent problem?

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