Hello all - redoing the kitchen and have a question about a gas line. It's currently a few inches away from the viking range we bought - there is only a narrow channel built into the range for the gas line to fit behind the stove. Otherwise, we have to move all the cabinets and stove forward by almost 2" to make them flush with the edge of the gas line. I want to cut the gas line to below the rise... [more]
Hello all - redoing the kitchen and have a question about a gas line. It's currently a few inches away from the viking range we bought - there is only a narrow channel built into the range for the gas line to fit behind the stove. Otherwise, we have to move all the cabinets and stove forward by almost 2" to make them flush with the edge of the gas line.
I want to cut the gas line to below the rise of the cabinets, then use an elbow joint to have it rise perfectly into the channel for the stove.
Contractor says this isn't possible/recommended because it will be overly difficult in our condo building but I can't imagine this is true.. any help greatly appreciated.
The gas line is currently 19" from the ground (wood floors, then concrete). The ikea base cabinets will have some space below them (they sit on legs). I suppose the line would have to be cut near the floor (almost at the floor surface to accommodate the elbow, extra pipe, etc) -- maybe a flex pipe?
THANKS a ton in advance
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Response by flarf
almost 13 years ago
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Your building will need to shut down the natural gas riser feeding your apartment. Have you spoken with the super?
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Response by ab_11218
almost 13 years ago
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listen to your contractor. there was a discussion on something else that involved the gas line being moved. no super with a head on his shoulders will shut off the gas to the whole complex, even for 5 minutes, just that you can get your stove where you want it.
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Response by Primer05
almost 13 years ago
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There are many plumbers who will move gas lines on the fly but not all will.
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Response by gcondo
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cant you work with the back of the stove a bit?
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Response by ab_11218
almost 13 years ago
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i saw that it was done in one of the apartments in my old coop (moving on the fly). i was thinking about how the gas smell must have penetrated. no matter how much prep you do, there will be a significant amount of gas that will escape when you cut the gas line and cap it, and when you uncap to run it.
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Response by gcondo
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and doesn't anyone seal holes they make? a porcupine could fit through that hole.
nobody will cut that pipe?
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Response by tungsten79
almost 13 years ago
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wow -- that seems dangerous to cut it while it is running live, no? also, the sparks from cutting the pipe aren't dangerous?
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Response by Sonya_D
almost 13 years ago
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A pipe doesn't necessarily need to be cut with a power tool. A manual pipe cutter can be used, which is basically just a blade that you crank by hand around the pipe or tube. It eventually just falls off. No sparks involved.
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Response by flarf
almost 13 years ago
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I can't imagine a plumber would just cut off the pipe above the floor. Gas pipes are threaded, and the cut pipe would need to be re-threaded. Hard to believe the guy is going to sit there and thread a pipe with a die while gas is flowing out of it.
More likely, he would put a wrench on the existing pipe, unscrew it from whatever fitting is beneath the concrete subfloor (hopefully an elbow), and replace it with a new, shorter pipe.
Again, have you spoken with the super? If it's a small building and you've been nice to the guy, he may help you out.
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Response by spanky3604
almost 13 years ago
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If the nearest fitting is below your floor,as it would appear from this picture,I don't see how a plumber could re-locate this line without access below the slab/floor.Is that possible?
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Response by spanky3604
almost 13 years ago
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On second look, why don't you cut back the floor 2" as needed, and then see if the plumber can carefully move the pipe back, on the the nearest fitting below the floor.Judging from the size of the hole,you should be able to see what is down there.
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Your building will need to shut down the natural gas riser feeding your apartment. Have you spoken with the super?
listen to your contractor. there was a discussion on something else that involved the gas line being moved. no super with a head on his shoulders will shut off the gas to the whole complex, even for 5 minutes, just that you can get your stove where you want it.
There are many plumbers who will move gas lines on the fly but not all will.
cant you work with the back of the stove a bit?
i saw that it was done in one of the apartments in my old coop (moving on the fly). i was thinking about how the gas smell must have penetrated. no matter how much prep you do, there will be a significant amount of gas that will escape when you cut the gas line and cap it, and when you uncap to run it.
and doesn't anyone seal holes they make? a porcupine could fit through that hole.
nobody will cut that pipe?
wow -- that seems dangerous to cut it while it is running live, no? also, the sparks from cutting the pipe aren't dangerous?
A pipe doesn't necessarily need to be cut with a power tool. A manual pipe cutter can be used, which is basically just a blade that you crank by hand around the pipe or tube. It eventually just falls off. No sparks involved.
I can't imagine a plumber would just cut off the pipe above the floor. Gas pipes are threaded, and the cut pipe would need to be re-threaded. Hard to believe the guy is going to sit there and thread a pipe with a die while gas is flowing out of it.
More likely, he would put a wrench on the existing pipe, unscrew it from whatever fitting is beneath the concrete subfloor (hopefully an elbow), and replace it with a new, shorter pipe.
Again, have you spoken with the super? If it's a small building and you've been nice to the guy, he may help you out.
If the nearest fitting is below your floor,as it would appear from this picture,I don't see how a plumber could re-locate this line without access below the slab/floor.Is that possible?
On second look, why don't you cut back the floor 2" as needed, and then see if the plumber can carefully move the pipe back, on the the nearest fitting below the floor.Judging from the size of the hole,you should be able to see what is down there.