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Coop Boards - Liquidity Rules

Started by kerry2000
almost 13 years ago
Posts: 5
Member since: Jun 2009
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We are former coop owners, having owned a 1BR and sold it. Now we are renting and looking to buy a 2 BR coop in the 850-950k range. What are the general guidelines that a coop board looks for in terms of liquidity after the down payment? Is there a formula that is used such as 2 years mortgage/maintenance in cash/liquid? Also, related...why aren't retirement funds such as 401k used for the liquidity rule? Since you can cash out with a penalty, these are accessible funds. IMHO, if I ever got into a situation where I was going to lose my home, I'd take a penalty to cash out some retirement money to make ends meet. Appreciate any insight some of you coop board members have. Thanks!
Response by greensdale
almost 13 years ago
Posts: 3804
Member since: Sep 2012

>Also, related...why aren't retirement funds such as 401k used for the liquidity rule? Since you can cash out with a penalty, these are accessible funds.

Sounds desperate. Why would a co-op want to enable that?

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Response by gutter86
almost 13 years ago
Posts: 74
Member since: Mar 2008

regarding liquidity requirements as a former co-op owner why wouldn't you use that experience as a benchmark?

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Response by 300_mercer
almost 13 years ago
Posts: 10570
Member since: Feb 2007

Usually coop liquidity means comfortably liquid without extra-ordinary measures such as 401K.

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Response by ab_11218
almost 13 years ago
Posts: 2017
Member since: May 2009

it depends on the building, location, your earnings.....

if you are at 20% or less of gross in living expenses, the board will most likely give you a break and may look at your 401K. if you are at 35% of gross, you most likey can forget it.

i see this 401K thing a lot. what i've done in the past was to take out a loan against my 401K to have the liquidity necessary. once you pass the board, you repay and continue living life.

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Response by kerry2000
almost 13 years ago
Posts: 5
Member since: Jun 2009

Oh that's interesting idea, ab, and worth considering. We have 500k liquid and 500k retirement and we want our monthly payments under 20% debt to gross. Would want to put around 400k down and leave 100k in cash but got feedback from one seller that it's not enough cash after closing.

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Response by flarf
almost 13 years ago
Posts: 515
Member since: Jan 2011

Not sure what your income is like but if you're buying a place for $900k, one option is to put down just enough to get into conforming (i.e. non-jumbo) loan territory. You could put down $275k and still have $225k in post-closing liquid assets. That would be 30% down, which should be sufficient for most buildings.

You can always make a $125k payment against your mortgage immediately after closing and end up in the same spot as if you put $400k down.

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Response by Rent_or_Buy
almost 13 years ago
Posts: 165
Member since: Feb 2009

Sometimes jumbo loans are actually cheaper . . . was true on my recent refi

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Response by sma10022
almost 13 years ago
Posts: 72
Member since: May 2010

As a member of my coop Board, we do not consider 401K or other retirement funds liquid unless the applicants are old enough to access those funds without penalty.
It would be a desperate and bad decision for anyone to pay those penalties. We want shareholders that show financial maturity. A mix of reserves and investments for the future.

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