architect fees

Ues,

You can just hire the architect for a survey and drawings for the management company or hire them to get approvals and sign offs at the building dept.

For the building dept you can expect to pay around 10k without design. If its just for the management company you should pay 1500-2000.

Thanks Primer.

It depends on the architect. We paid ours a very reasonable flat fee for drawings, etc. and had our GC execute the plans. In our case there was no need to go through DOB, though.

Can you say what the scope of the work was, and the fee paid?

My architect charges $150/hr, and her assistant's time is $115/hr. DOB filing, if necessary, is an extra flat fee.

Ours charged approx $8K and included all drawings and plans for bumping out the kitchen, breaking through (but not removing) a wall, built-in elements, electrical changes/placement and a few other odds and ends. We were required by the co-op board to have a licensed architect handle the plans for the wall and kitchen changes. We were lucky that we didn't have to file with DOB for our particular job.

I work for an architectural firm and this would normally be a flat fee project.

many thanks

I'm floored that it would cost upwards of $8K for a kitchen job, plus "odds and ends" that didn't even require DOB filing. That seems extremely high.

Wasn't just the kitchen. There were several other issues that had to be addressed. the 8K was actually quite a bit more reasonable than other architects' bids for the job, which were in the range of 15K.

that's absolutely insane....and I'm an architect.

Beware of architect contracts-they are fraught with problems-always be certain to use the AIA (American Institute of Architects) contracts which protect both the architect and owner. The architect however can modify them and this is where the trouble starts. MAKE SURE ANY CONTRACT YOU SIGN WITH AN ARCHITECT IS GONE OVER BY A CONTRACT LAWYER. Same goes for contract with contractor.
Architects are very good at squeezing in "additional fees" which could turn out to be very expensive.

For a full renovation (but no walls moved), including custom built-ins, my architect charged a flat fee (about 15k), which ended up being a bit under 10% of the total contractor's bill (We had agreed the fee before the estimates were in, so the percentage was coincidental). Filings weren't required, but full plans for the board and trades were. Architect also reviewed and advised me on contractor's bids & materials pricing, specified and purchased specialty materials & appliances, acted as principal overseer of the contractor (including weekly site visits), negotiator where necessary between contractor and building, contractor and me, and contractor and neighbors. (Contractor was quite good, but there was a lot of coordination necessary). Well worth the expense.