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Coop Roof replacement or "torch down" ??

Started by dharma
over 12 years ago
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Member since: Apr 2010
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I'm in a prewar coop, and the roof is in terrible shape. The management company says it needs to be pulled up to the studs and rebuilt (and with this all of the environmental testing needs to be done). Someone else told me that this is just not done anymore, and instead people use the "torch down" method (where they put a rubber down over the existing roof and seal it). Does anyone else have experience with repairing/replacing a whole roof/could you please advise? The full roof rebuild is of course very very very expensive. The coop is prewar, completely gutted in the 1980s, about 50 x 100 feet. Thanks!
Response by front_porch
over 12 years ago
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Member since: Mar 2008

dharma, I am a real estate agent, not a contractor, but IME the way roofs work is that when one leaks, you throw a new one on top of it, and the same thing again... but then every X times (and in my single-family home experience x=3, but I can imagine that it would vary building by building) you have to rip all the roofing off down to the bones and start over.

I did have an experience with an institutional building where ripping down completely and re-roofing was the recommendation and it was not done; instead a "new" roof was put on over the existing old layers, and it didn't perform, and we ended up with a leaky, leaky roof.

So if (big if) you trust your management company, yes the roof needs to be ripped down to the bones again. (FYI, these pieces of the building would not be called "studs" as those are verticals -- maybe "rafters" or "trusses"? Somebody help me out).

ali r.
DG Neary Realty

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Response by truthskr10
over 12 years ago
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Member since: Jul 2009

Yes with institutional or "commercial" buildings, the max you can overlay a new roof over the old one is 3x, after that you are required by law to rip out the old one.
The reason is the additional weight.
I'm sure it's the same for residential.

And yes, it is expensive.

*I am not a contractor but own a very large commercial building with 3 layers of roof on it.
(yes Gdale Im using your asterisk)

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Response by greensdale
over 12 years ago
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On any given thread, any one person is entitled to be the first to use the asterisk.@

@ rules are subject to input by Streeteasy. All decisions final.

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Response by streetsmart
over 12 years ago
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Member since: Apr 2009

I put a torch down roof on part of my home and the existing 3 layers of roof had to be removed. I believe that's what the code required. Anyway it made sense since some of the rafters were rotting out and had to be replaced.

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Response by alanhart
over 12 years ago
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Member since: Feb 2007

3 is max for insurance purposes.

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Response by jelj13
over 12 years ago
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Member since: Sep 2011

We had a torch down roof on our building (new condo) and it had to be replaced twice in 10 years due to problems with the membrane and sealant, especially around the parapets. We tore out the whole thing and put down a traditional roof with appropriate slopes to the drains. Still leak free after 15 years.

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