Deceptive Realtor Advertising - "Pets Allowed"
Started by midageguy
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Enough already with deceptive advertising on pet friendly buildings. I am selling in Brooklyn and looking to move back to Manhattan and tried to set up a search for "pets allowed" in SE so I can find a building that will be simpatico with my dogs. So I am so sick of agents who input listings as "pets allowed" where the coop policy is "no dogs" but cats are OK - that to me is not a pet friendly... [more]
Enough already with deceptive advertising on pet friendly buildings. I am selling in Brooklyn and looking to move back to Manhattan and tried to set up a search for "pets allowed" in SE so I can find a building that will be simpatico with my dogs. So I am so sick of agents who input listings as "pets allowed" where the coop policy is "no dogs" but cats are OK - that to me is not a pet friendly building. Also - and this is directed to you agents selling in buildings such as "The Brevard" - dogs "up to 15 lbs" is NOT a dog friendly building - its a chihuahua friendly building. You agents who do this are wasting peoples' time - people who search pets allowed building are looking for pet friendly - READ dogs allowed buildings. So I am going to start discussions on listings I come across describing the actual pet policy for any listing where the only description is "pet friendly." Maybe we can have some truth in advertising REBNY [less]
I understand your point, but calling members of REBNY "realtors" is like calling a Protestant a Catholic ( or to make it more clear - same as a broker advertising a cat-friendly building as a dog-friendly building ).
I don't know where some of these agents get their info. In a large building I recently looked at -- a no pets buildings -- there are 10 apartments on the market. 4 brokers (Elliman, Corcoran, Town, & Delancey) all get it right in their listings: No pets.
Warburg has 4 of the listings. In 3 of them, they say 'no pets'. In the other, they say 'no dogs'. Now maybe that particular broker thinks of cats as sacred deities, or too unfriendly to be considered a 'pet', or a live-in pest control service and not something useless like a 'pet', but how many people are going to waste their time looking and maybe progressing with a sale, only to get stopped when they read the house rules, or have a chat with the super?
It is getting much harder to find a good " pet friendly building" We are at 200 CPS and have an 85LB dog, most of the buildings we looked at said no dogs or under 30lbs. The listings all said "Pet Friendly".................
There's simply no reason that livestock should be permitted in urban apartment buildings.
For what it's worth, a broker (sorry won't use "realtor" in NYC ever again...) I know told me that at least for most
Parts of Manhattan other than "pre-funereal" (his description not mine) neighborhoods brokers go out of their way to avoid listing a property as no dogs / no pets which equates with "stuffy old fart" coop.
Aaron2 - my point exactly - do these real estate professionals think I'll euthanize my dog because lll be overwhelmed with your listing once I see it? How about a little truth in advertising. So what I encourage others to so is start discussions on vague or obviously deceptive listings OR building descriptions and list what the REAL pet policy is.
" no pets which equates with "stuffy old fart" coop"
Let's see, people want to have large dogs (maybe more than one), washer dryers, treadmills, kids, pianos, have late night parties, etc. , ..... it's time to buy a house and stop disturbing your neighbors. I'll take one of those no-pet coops any day of the week.
When we were looking for a place to buy, we probably looked at 40 to 50 buildings. We had a dog and 3 cats and would only look at pet friendly buildings. They were in midtown and the west side. Only two buildings were not pet friendly. I don't know if pet friendly is a problem for rentals though. We are now on the west side and I see a lot of big dogs from Great Danes to Mastiffs to Rottweilers.
These buildings are probably "pet friendly" for the vast majority of people who have pets, just not the small minority of people who have more than two pets, large dogs, exotic animals, etc. If you fall into any of those categories, you will always need to ask, and you may be limited to certain buildings.
midageguy: I do agree, truth in advertising in these matters would really save everyone time. Fair enough.
But, "...no pets which equates with 'stuffy old fart' coop..."?
Screw that. I lived in building where a neighbor's small dog would bark incessantly day and night and disturb everyone on the floor (unbelievable, the decibel level that little dog could generate). That's why I'm thrilled to live in a no dog building. An animal that makes noise which won't emanate from one unit and disturb any other is always fine with me. But otherwise, I completely agree with RealEstateNY - "...it's time to buy a detached home and stop disturbing your neighbors..."
If you don't own a dog or cat, as matsonjones and alanhart say, why would you want to live in a building with them?
for that matter, if you aren't from Ottawa, why would you want to live in a building with someone who is, especially an Ottawan with hockey/anger issues? http://streeteasy.com/nyc/talk/discussion/36810-condo-board-wont-let-us-in-please-help http://streeteasy.com/nyc/talk/discussion/36781-Im-from-Ottawa-and-Im-not-going-to-take-American-government-anymore
HB, for one your situation could change. I have a friend who didn't care in the least about pet policy when she bought a coop in 2008 but now has a dog she adores. Fortunately she happened to buy in a pet friendly building. Secondly, a lot of people have pets so you have bigger buyer pool should you choose to sell.
But I agree with the OP that brokers need to be specific in their listings about how "Pet Friendly" a building really is and SE should provide more specificity in search options. People need to know upfront whether "pet friendly" really means just cats or cats and dogs under a specific weight limit".
Personally, I am glad to be livinug in a building that welcomes our four cats and the puppy upstairs who is going to grow up to be about 120 lbs according to her vet, among all the loved beasts who occupy apartments here and allow their humans to pay the maintenance.
>HB, for one your situation could change.
Right, she could have become homeless and pets are allowed in those circumstances.
>Secondly, a lot of people have pets so you have bigger buyer pool should you choose to sell.
More people don't have pets and have limited interest in OPP.
are you hunters burg?
Some buildings simply have "case by case" rules and depend on the whim of the board (yes, sometimes need to be brought to an interview) and do not allow specific breeds or multiple pets, so putting "pets ok" in my opinion is ok then you can ask the broker for the specific rule if there is one. I will agree that the weight limit restriction is pretty dumb. Most of the annoying loud dogs are under 25lbs. Jack Russells and Beagles can be the noisiest as an example. Goldens, Great Danes, Labs, are often so quiet you would never know they are there.
Sheep Dogs are pretty good.