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Two Broker Situation

Started by NYCNewBuyer
almost 11 years ago
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We are looking for an apartment to buy in Manhattan area. We started working with one agent and saw few apartments with her. However, we realized that she is not very much aware of coop buying process in NYC area. So, we found another agent who is more experienced to handle our situation. Can we put an offer through this new agent for the apartments seen with the first agent?? We didn't sign any contract with the first agent. So, is there is any law prohibiting us from going ahead with the new agent for our purchase of apartments seen earlier?? Will the first agent be entitled to any commission by law in this situation??
Response by fieldschester
almost 11 years ago
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Member since: Jul 2013

How do you feel about your behavior in this situation?

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Response by nychomeowner
almost 11 years ago
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Member since: Mar 2014

You should contact the REBNY Legal Line for more information. I don't think the first broker will have a legal claim to a commission here... but agree with fieldschester -- if the first broker has invested a lot of time with you, you should think twice before dumping him/her...

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Response by snezanc
almost 11 years ago
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Member since: Oct 2007

honesty is the best course. Tell the second broker about the situation. Most likely they will figure out some kind of referral fee to the first broker if you have spent a significant time with the first agent.

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Response by snezanc
almost 11 years ago
Posts: 121
Member since: Oct 2007

if you want to put in an offer on any properties the first agent showed you, she most likely registered you as her client at the open house. It's very unlikely the first agent will not demand a portion of the commission.

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Response by msadewitz
almost 11 years ago
Posts: 20
Member since: Aug 2008

First off, I am *not* an attorney, but as a real estate broker who's been around the block a few times and discussed situations like you're describing with my sales manager, have some knowledge from the other side of the deal. The way I understand it, a broker needs to have "procuring cause" to be entitled to a sales commission. The easiest way to understand procuring cause is that that broker needs to have been the one to facilitate a "meeting of the minds" between buyer and seller. It's a number of events that the broker is involved in leading up to making the deal happen. Simply showing an apartment is NOT enough to establish procuring cause. You haven't even submitted an offer, the first broker hasn't presented an offer for the seller to accept or negotiated on your behalf at all. It's my opinion you're not in any peril by going through your new agent (especially if you haven't signed a buyer's exclusive agreement), though no one could control if the first broker comes after you for money. If that first agent did do that, though, in my opinion, they would clearly lose.

Your rights are furthers strengthened if the first broker is a REBNY member. It's my understanding that REBNY ethics guidelines say that the buyer can choose his/her representation at any point before the contract is signed.

Hope this helps, good luck to you.

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Response by polonskyoleg
over 10 years ago
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Member since: Feb 2012

I agree with MSADEWITZ: unless the first broker has a Buyer Agency form signed by you on file - you are free to put in an offer with any broker you choose. This "rule of the game" creates risk as well as an opportunity for us, brokers.

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Response by fieldschester
over 10 years ago
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Member since: Jul 2013

"This "rule of the game" creates risk as well as an opportunity for us, brokers."

So the industry sets itself up so that brokers are cut throat. Do we really believe that? What does it mean for clients if brokers are encouraged to act this way? What does it mean if the clients create these situations on a one-off basis?

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