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What will it sell for - GV Townhouse?

Started by 30yrs_RE_20_in_REO
about 6 years ago
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Discussion about 18 West 11th Street
I don't even know where to begin.
Response by front_porch
about 6 years ago
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What's that Chandler line? "Who built this place... and who was he mad at?"

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Response by TeamM
about 6 years ago
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When houses like this are landmarked, I feel like there should be an exception to changes that allow the owners to rebuilt it back to style that is reasonably comparable to the rest of the neighborhood.

I can't imagine the buyer for this house. at any price other than bargain basement.

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Response by nyc_sport
about 6 years ago
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This was the site of the accidential detonation of a bomb made by weather underground extremists in 1970s that leveled the original 1845 house (once owned by Merrill of Merrill Lynch). This is a posterchild for building to one's taste. The pricing seems to seek a premium for the quirkiness. The owner has a pretty significant amount invested in this, but more like the $12MM ask from 3 years ago that seems far more realistic if not ambitious.

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Response by TeamM
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nyc_sport - very interesting historical context. Thank you.

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Response by 30yrs_RE_20_in_REO
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Doesn't even come with Paddington.

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Response by George
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TeamM, it's my understanding that the LPC will often allow restoration of the stoop and facade to the original condition with sufficient documentation.

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Response by Aaron2
about 6 years ago
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Excellent article at Greenwich Village Society for Historic Preservation site w/ pictures:
https://gvshp.org/blog/2019/03/06/when-the-weathermen-blew-up-18-west-11th-street/

"Hugh Hardy, the architect, and Francis Mason bought the buildingless land at 18 West 11th Street after the explosion. Mr. Hardy came up with a design which was certainly the subject of some debate, combining a strongly historicist base and top floor which merged seamlessly with unified row of Greek Revival houses of which it was a part with a jarringly angular and modernist jutting bay window inserted into the center, albeit in the same traditional brick material as the rest of the house and the row."

"There were strong reactions against the new design, with many expressing a preference for one which would have simply replicated the prior structure. “It was this whole idea that a new building should express something new,” Hardy has said, adding, “we were deeper into diagonals at that point.” Some said the design was a perfect combination of traditional architecture with a nod to the explosion and its disruptive impact upon the street and its history. After much debate, the proposed design was narrowly approved by the Landmarks Preservation Commission."

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Response by TeamM
about 6 years ago
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Very interesting background.

Landmarking rules raise a lot of very interesting issues and tensions around private v. public/joint "ownership" of the appearance of a street, freedom of expression, etc.

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Response by 30yrs_RE_20_in_REO
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