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Flip Tax

Started by morstad
over 2 years ago
Posts: 0
Member since: Jul 2014
Discussion about 137 East 36th Street #4J
it is not really accurate to say this building does not have a flip tax. The board tried to impose one but never got it passed by the shareholders so they call it a fee. All sellers must pay a 45,500 at closing, regardless of the size or price of their unit. This seems very unfair to smaller units. This fee is great for large units and long time owners, of which the board is mostly comprised. Even the managing agent admits it is a flip tax in all but name. But it's worse in a down market since it is not based on profit.
Response by bramstar
over 2 years ago
Posts: 1909
Member since: May 2008

Wow if true, that's pretty shocking. The 'fee' should at least be commensurate with shares held.

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Response by multicityresident
over 2 years ago
Posts: 2431
Member since: Jan 2009

That is outrageous - check the Proprietary Lease to see if Transfer Fee is covered in there. Typical coops would have this provision and make clear this is something board cannot change without consent of specified percentage of shareholders. Is there nobody in this building of 115 units with desire, energy and skillset to take the board on? If the majority of shareholders don't want this, the board is ripe for a coup.

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Response by truthskr10
over 2 years ago
Posts: 4088
Member since: Jul 2009

"This fee is great for large units and long time owners"

Just for long time owners. Id say instead , "Bad for all sellers, exponentially worse for small units."
Even the larger units in the million dollar range make this an effective 4% flip tax well outside the norm

Id be "coup"ing right along MCR but it doesnt seem to be a deterrence averaging between 10 to 15 sales per year.

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Response by RichardBerg
over 2 years ago
Posts: 325
Member since: Aug 2010

If the tax was there when you purchased, then you benefited from the lower valuations it caused (not to mention subsidized maintenance along the way). Not much moral high ground to complain.

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Response by Admin2009
over 2 years ago
Posts: 380
Member since: Mar 2014

Co-Ops could/should have Flip Taxes , but shareholders usually vote down the measure in Annual meetings

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