Winsor park - 100 west 58

Measure the apartment first. As of today the actual square footage will cost you about 1,800,00/sq ft. Most asking prices are about double of what they should be.

The location is great, but what do you like about the apartment? just the name of the architect? the history of that building? the ceilings are low, some of them do not have much of a view or light - to me it reminds of a typical 80"s structure. The roof, is there a real roof, or is it just a huge ventilator up there and just a few inches to walk around, can you really call that a roof? what about the gym, dark, nobody ever goes down there ...hmm I suppose everyone has their tastes.

My old neighbor Tom Postilio moved into that building -- he is a real estate agent at Core Group (not my firm) -- it might be worth checking in with him.

ali r.
{downtown broker}

You can rent a 2BR for a significantly lower monthly outlay than buying a 1BR (unless of course you are getting a 30% discount off ask, which i hope you are).

The Elliman site shows some big price cuts at Windsor Park today.

I fell as though I know the city pretty well for a transplant, 22+ years and counting. BUT, I just don't feel that 100 W 58th is in Times Square. Why do they say that? Wouldn't it be sexier and "more profitable", to advertise it as Central Park South and compete as a cheap alternative to the Plaza?

feel

that is just the neighborhood it's lumped into by streeteasy no? they aren't advertising on their end as such.

There seem to be quite apartments for sale in that building. Anyone know why? Is it new?

I meant to say above: There seem to be quite ALOT apartments for sale in that building

its a new conversion of an old building. right?

It's a conversion of a former hotel. I looked at some apartments there a few months ago. The finishes are nice but at the time, they were asking top dollar. Also, the 58th street exposures feel really close to the buildings across the street.

58th street is one of the loudest streets in manhattan. I currently live on the 10th floor of an apartment facing 58th street (between 5th and 6th) and it's insanely loud. With all the potholes and overnight deliveries to the plaza hotel, it's just very loud. I wonder how well-insualted the windows of windsor park are?

Windsor Park is a boutique building and the location is perfect. 1 block from Central Park, 5th Ave. and many other spectacular places. The beautifull landscaping in front of the building is beautifull. This building is undervalued and when the true values are achieved, it will be tough for many to get into this building. The doormen and concierge services are outstanding. Highly recommended. The Sponsor has presented a new design for the lobby and for landscaping on the rooftop. This is a premium boutique building and I love it very much.

The back is also extremely noisey. During the summer with all the AC units facing the back running, it sounds like a 747 taking off inside the apartment even with the windows closed. The quality of construction is really poor in this building.

who cares how nice it is. look at resale info. total shitshow.

can anyone who actually lives in the building comment on the noise level? thanks!

LGeorge is VERY correct. Have lived in a back facing unit and it's true . . . one can't open the windows for all the noise - individual a/c units and the unit that services the common area . . . plus noise and SMELLS from the adjacent restaurant. So unpleasant - to not have the street noise but have instead the a/c noise such that you can't open the windows. The units are noisy or perhaps it's as much rude neighbors who walk on bare floors in heels, loud conversation, no sweeps under doors means hearing conversations in the hall. Inconsiderate occupants (read rich kids whose parents put them in a unit) who talk and guffaw like teenage boys talking in the locker room are even more apparent due to no means of sound mitigation. The building is in a convenient midtown location and the service is very good and personalized. Think the kitchens are the bomb for NYC but overall I think they are overpriced and the lack of sales probably supports my opinion.

Location is unbeatable, yes, if you need Midtown. Building itself..not so much. Noisy overall (you'll hear everything from streets, halls and neighbors) and units are small and very dark inside,especially G (faces interior), F (faces north)lines, not enough daylight. B line is better and more bright as it faces 6 ave. Gym is damp, "rooftop deck"...dont even bother to check it out, its a joke. Dont know what it is so spectacular about the "architecture"..Names? Who cares, you need a comfort for this kind of money. The whole thing is overpriced big time.

http://windsorparkcoop.com/ ??????

aboutready
about 3 months ago
ignore this person
report abuse who cares how nice it is. look at resale info. total shitshow.

leave it to the woman with all of the toilet problems and family problems never to say something positive

no, Riversider, that's not the place

Regarding the restaurant smell from J&H, the City closed down their chminey. They can no longer cook using the chimney. Food is microwawed and brought in from another location. NO SMELL from restaurant anymore.

Building is beautifull and location is spectacular! Excellent investment.

Did the mold related litigation get resolved yet?

This building is a dump. The units I've seen are incredibly small and priced incredibly high. Another Bracha lousy building.

Agree. Very poor construction. Mold issue is not resolved. Mice!

Interesting, we've been there for a couple of years with no sign of mice or mold. I'm not in love with the building (the location is ideal for me) but I do like the kitchens . . . there are some floors that are known for nightmare occupants but it's otherwise a decent building - and I've seen a LOT. Overpriced, yes, but they are selling . . . little storage . . . great staff . . .

that building is terrible...lots of noise and cheap materials used.

There is a reason why the turnover is so high in this building. People want to sell out because this is truly an overpriced crap of a building. The construction is extremely poor - kitchen cabinets are falling apart, the ceiling and walls are uneven, and the floor varnish is peeling. There's something wrong with the showers and there's been multiple flooding. Even the door handle just falls off the door! As for the staff, there are 2 or 3 doormen who are very nice, but the rest are authoritarian creeps. They treat you like they are the police and residents are hooligans. The resident manager has no manners. The building management company is awful. The smell issue is true as well. Even if you are not facing J&H, you smell the horse carriage from the park. The noise issue is also true - you can even hear the TV from next door and your upstairs neighbor just walking around. For those of you wondering if there is a roof deck, there isn't. If your broker tells you there is, you should insist on seeing it. The gym is in the basement - it's service-able, but even the sad little TV in there doesn't work frequently. For pet owners (which many, well-to-do, New Yorkers are) - this building is not pet friendly. They tell you they are, but they are not. They are not allowing dogs in the passenger elevator. Somehow, the resident manager and Elliman treat the elevator as if it was a sacred cow! It seems bizarre to me that a resident of a "luxury" building near "Central Park" must use the freight elevator and exit the building through the trash chute to walk their little poodle in the park. If you do have your dog in the main elevator, they treat you like you are a criminal and harass you. I'm a renter in the building and am so grateful that I'm not stuck with this un-sellable "asset."

Agree with CVH 100%.

Saw a couple of units in the building as well. Recently the snowstorm in October left a nasty damp, smell in the G & H units and all the units facing the north side. The construction was nice in the beginning when it first launched 3 years ago but the wear and tear has really begun to show. Back then, it was positioned as a premium apartment. It was back then simply because it was new.

But now- the building has really degraded quite a bit. Very worn, very VERY used. The kitchen-ware looks worn and it's just not what it used to be. The amenities are nothing spectacular: you might as well get a gym membership @ NYHR or NYSC because the basement gym is dark and isolated. Units all need an updating.

And don't even bother get me into the smell of this apartment. So sad because the location is good.

I would like to clear up some of the negative untrue comments written above:

1. There is NO mold problem in this building. Never has been.
2. The building is kept very clean and is a beautiful building.
3. The gym is outstanding. It is located in the lower level and there is a flat screen TV on the wall. Does the above writer want to work out or look out a window while working out?
4. The apartments are beautifully done and designed.
5. This is a boutique building with only 102 units. The staff does an amazing job and the service is outstanding. The staff is very friendly.
6. The location of the building is just 1 block from the Park and the location is spectacular.

One person listed themselves as a renter. If this is who I think it is--we are glad to see you go. You have been rather rude to the staff and never followed building policies. You let your dog release in the elevators and lobby. Good luck to the next unfortunate building who gets the unfortunate opportunity to have you as a renter. The elevators are on the smaller side and none of the other owners/renters mind using the freight elevator which is very easily accessble and much larger.

The building used to be a hotel, was built in the 1920's and was converted into a condominium in 2006. The construction is solid and you don't hear people from other units. Those of us who live in the building love it and are very happy with our investment.

I doubt anyone who currently owns is writing the negative comments above.

This is a fast and upcoming neighborhood. There is a new hotel/condo going up 5 doors down from Windsor Park. The units start at $6 million. In addition, there is a new boutique hotel going up accross the street on 6th Ave. from Windsor Park. Anyone who wants to live in this area should take advantage of the pricing and purchase now. The values at Windsor Park will be going up much higher in the next few years. This is a very hot location to live in.

herbertbernard.. .take your own advice and inventory the units until the place gets hotter... any day now... better hurry.

Wow, undeserved promotion for a building that fails to excite on many levels. While every place has its pluses and minuses, and different people can hold the different views of the same landscape, I have to say - after more than three years - that herbertbernard continues to protest / promote too much. I don't know what justifies the adjective "boutique" . . . is it because it's small? In addition to arguably overstated unit sizes, this is a building where the windows haven't been washed in a couple of years ("we don't have the money"), where one defiant owner rents his units like hotel accommodations (unsafe for occupants, unseemly, illegal, and uncalled for), where promised elevator renovations still haven't occurred despite requiring occupants to use the freight elevator for access with pets, luggage, etc., where you CAN most definitely hear noise from below, above, outside and beside, where the fit and finish quality of the interiors was bad to begin with and only suffers more with the passage of time (e.g., peeling veneer on cabinets, leaking showers, etc.), where there's a pigeon problem of gargantuan proportion that has resulted in the unsightly installation of bird spikes (really attractive), where attention to design detail left things to be desired then and now . . . True enough, I think the staff is fabulous. But who cares that the units down the street start at $6mil for a 1BR? That's a moot or at least irrelevant point. The values here continue to drop and with seemingly sound justification. I agree the location is terrific but that same plus becomes a true minus during parade season (every weekend in the summer, when the throngs swell), and during the busy holiday season. It's definitely an ok building, in a (mostly) great location, with wonderful access to amenities, and with staff that I love, but it's not the beat all to end all that the prior poster would like you to believe.

Nokomarie,

1. The doormen use the freight elevators to bring up your luggage (as is the case with other high end buildings). As for the dogs--we had a problem with with them releasing in the elevators and lobby. The majority of owners agreed that the dogs should be use the freight elevators. FYI...the doormen are their to assist any unit owner with their dogs.

2. the values in the building have gone up over the past year. Sometimes the owners underestimate the great value of their unit and may sell for lower then what they can actually receive for it because they receive terrible advice from their broker. A studio just sold for $800,000.

I find it truly suspicious that if you own in this building why you would trash it? I don't belive you own in the building. What are your motives?

Honesty is Nokomarie's motive. Different people have different motives. Yours are obvious. Owning a unit in this crappy building should not prevent you from seeing/admitting its countless 'minuses'. Very poor construction, cheap materials and all of the above...(see other genuine posts). Many buildings have problems but this one has too many. Good luck to everyone selling.

I wish I had the info below before I bought.....Should be helpful to other prospective buyers. Low quality kitchen cabinets can be changed but mold issue and construction defects....

"Would You Like To Live In Mold?

UNIT 2C LOCATED AT WINDSOR PARK 58TH STREET, SHHH WORD IS UNITS 4C WERE ALSO REPORTED TO HAVE AspergiLLUS Penicillin, ....

"RE: Report/Proposal for Mold Remediation Services 100 West 58 Street, Unit 2-C, NY, NY 10022
Dear Ms. Schottenstein,
Insurance Restoration Specialists (IRS), Inc. Environmental Services Division is pleased to submit this proposal to conduct mold remediation services at the above referenced location. IRS performed an assessment for the purposes of providing a cost estimate. The following is a summary of our observations/notes based on our site visit on June 2, 2008.
Observations/Notes:
It was relayed to IRS that mold growth had occurred at the above referenced residence.
An inspection of the residence found there to be visible mold and signs of repetitive water intrusion incidents throughout the unit. "
" Water damaged sheetrock ceilings, walls, and floors, were observed in each room of the unit, to include both bathrooms and the laundry closet. Visible mold was found in each of the aforementioned locations both on building materials and on contents. This conclusion is confirmed by interior testing and sampling performed by RTP Environmental Associates, Inc. report dated 2/21/08. This unit is of a two-bed room, two bathroom, center living room, with walk in kitchen, design space. "
" The nature of the original request for inspection was based on a pipe failure said to have occurred in Unit 4-C. While this was a serious water intrusion incident, further inspection of the unit found signs of regular long term water penetration issues from above, which of course impacts both perimeter and partition walls throughout the unit. This conclusion is confirmed by the engineering reports as supplied by Heimer Engineering, P.C. dated 11/17/06 and 1/16/08 respectively. "
" Unit 2-C is impacted from water damage and mold contamination to the extent that 90% of the interior construction materials and all of the contents have been affected."

Proposal For Mold Remediation Services
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Schottenstein Residence, 100 West 58 Street, Unit 2-C, NY, NY 10022 June 3, 2008 "

How long has the homeowners assoc. Known about these 6.5 million dollar problems?

"WINDSOR PARK CONDOMINIUM"
"HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION"

"Urgent Notice to All non sponsor Unit Owners"

"MEETING DATE: 7:30 PM on TUESDAY OCTOBER 7

Hilton New York Hotel, 1335 6th Avenue, between 53rd & 54th, Lincoln Suite, 4th Floor"

The Windsor Park Condominium Homeowners Association has been formed in response to the numerous failures of the Sponsors to live up to their contractual obligations. We have all made a significant investment to purchase our respective units in a building in a most desirable section of Manhattan." We did not, however, sign up to live in a building where numerous construction deficiencies threaten our investments and our homes." "

The Sponsors to date have been unwilling to take action to resolve these deficiencies. Accordingly, this Association will take all steps necessary to obtain remediation of the building by the Sponsors.

Rand Engineering & Architecture, P.e., a New York based company has been investigating the deficiencies in our individual units and in the common areas and has now issued a written report detailing these deficiencies". "It is their opinion that the "cost to remediate the deficiencies in our building will exceed $6.5 million dollars.""

The deficiencies in our building include but are not limited to the roof, exterior walls, common areas, apartment wood,flooring, kitchen cabinets, water-bearing tile backboard replacement, electrical upgrade,"
residential and common HVAC systems and exhaust ventilation system (including the installation of missing fire dampers in many units).
These pictures were taken in a unit close to the Windsor Park Pharmacy. The Homeowners Association has known since letters were written in 2006 when the unit was purchased. This building has been sold as new and in fact is all defective pipes and tons of water intrusion leading to rusty pipes and mold. See the pictures of the water below would you wish to drink, bath or use it to wash your clothing or your families? Write to miamigirl2000@aol.com if you wish to see the pictures taken.

How much of the MOLD and WATER INTRUSION has affected the Pharmacy below known as Windsor Park Pharmacy?"

Every new building in NYC has had its issues in the beginning. Windsor Park had much less issues then the average new building in NYC. The Sponsor cleared up all of the issues that were brought to his aattention and in fact also secured the building C-O (Certificate Occupancy) which would never be provided to the building if in fact the building had the issues as you describe above. The building is in outstanding shape and every unit owner I have spoken to is very happy at Windsor Park. The reason why some of the units have sold at lower prices is because there were some investers who bought 1 or multiple units during the peak of the real estate market at Windsor Park and other buildings and had to sell because the market did take a hit a few years ago and they could not afford to hold onto all of their real estate. This has no negative reflection on the building Windsor Park. Such a great place to live.

You obviously have a motive here? Not sure what it is. Sounds like someone got on your wrong side.Could it be the Sponsor? Sorry you are so angry at someone and have to take it out on all of the happy owners who love Windsor park. Your comments not only hurt your unit (if you actually own one) but they hurt all of the unit owners who purchased and never did a thing to cross you. Perhaps you should think this through a little.

For the record, there is NO mold at Windsor Park or water intrusions. This is fabricated.

Also--as an FYI---buldings do have have leaking issues from time to time. This is not uncommon in new and old buildings alike. Anytime I have had a maintanance issue the building staff jumps right on it to fix it.

Thank you, newtenant, for correctly acknowledging my comments as truth. And to herbertbernard, I fail to see where the telling of truths becomes "trashing". I have many positive things to say but the negatives that I stated are without dispute. AND, in the interest of truth, the studio that sold for the amount you stated was NOT an arm's length transaction by any stretch and the absentee owner, by her own admission (said TO me, BY her), was stunned to receive this price. But the infamous adjacent owner who bought the unit clearly wanted this particular A line - for expansion (the story) or for privacy (more likely as construction has not commenced, seven months after the COE?) - and the above market money for an all cash quick close was not an object. In a period of continuous delusion, an H line owner is holding on dearly to that number in trying to justify a much-too-high listing price to sell her 1BR (on a much much lower floor) and can't be talked out of it. It's unsubstantiated "lore" such as your story of a "studio that sold for $800K) that gives people false hope and misrepresents value. And for those who bought high on the basis of "shiny new", it's particularly painful to end up with fixtures, finishes and detail that are not worthy of the price. As a broker I see it all the time. If you own it, it's gold, if you're a buyer, it's crap. At the end of the day, these are worth what the market will pay. A look at sales history tells the story of value. Input from those live here add to the story. Caveat emptor and balance all of the FACTS in making a decision.

I have to assume that nokomarie and newtenent are the same people using 2 different ID names. Folks, for those of you reading this, beware not to believe the negatives being said. I find it intereating that each time I make a comment this person who identifies themselves as Nokomarie and newtent (the same person) responds almost immediately. They obviously have a bone to pick with someone? I suggest that if you are looking at purchasing or renting at our building that you visit us and ask to speak to some of the owners.

So you are a broker living in our building? hmm. I know of only a few brokers who live at Windsor Park. Are you a renter?

What exactly should I 'think through'? To disclose or not to disclose the facts? I view a non-disclosure as an intentional misleading. I am not a fan of tricking anybody into buying/renting units in a problematic building. Sorry, not my cup of tea. Any property/building has its own value based on facts, not on some owners' false unbased praises. You are singing too much for too long and too excessively to be considered credible by any standards. You know your motives-you own and dont want the priced to drop. But do you really hope to achieve this by hiding information? You can 'love Windsor Park' but refusing to admit negative facts about it contributes to your uncredibility and doesnt help the building's reputation anyway.

FYI-mold issue is NOT fabricated (by whom and for what purposes anyway?). If you believe otherwise, obtain official records.

By refusing to admit facts and attacking others with different opinion, you make this discussion non-constructive, which defeats the purpose of the blog. I dont like to post for the sake of posting, but good luck with owning or selling anyway.

Wow herbertbernard- what a very nice write up. Very interesting that you seem to be promoting living in the building. Face it, the building has many issues and was poorly converted. As much as I would like to promote it (I am a unit-owner), the frustration with the building maintenance and poor management has made the building very underwhelming. Have you even seen any of the damage to some of the units in this building? water damage to floors, walls, ceilings and this building is not even 6 years old.

Quit promoting a poor product all for the sake of saving your own hide.

Paranoid much? The same person using two different ID's? That was good for a chuckle. Your assumption is incorrect, although you will probably disregard that truth too. I'll grant you that I'm mildly curious as to newtenant's identity and issues, but we are not the same. (How do we know he's not YOUR alter ego, desperate to convey the truths that you cannot now reveal?????? LOL!!!) As to your not knowing me - or believing that you don't - do you know ALL of the residents and their professions? And do you know all of the owners who rent their units to AVOID living here because it's not pleasant or because selling is not reasonable in this market (given the market AND the condition of the units)?

Presenting your overly PollyAnna-ish and Utopian perspective while attacking others' perspectives does just what newtenant said - it undermines any credibility you might hope to have. Again, the market will determine the values, plain and simple economics.

I see there's an earlier response to herbertbernard that was hidden, but it's actually a great retort. If this is such a great building, and if the prices are so screamin' good now, why not buy another one or two or three or more units? If you do, start with the two units that the owner continues to advertise online as vacation rentals for short-term use. Been going on for over two years. Perhaps you missed the unfortunate exchange this weekend when, once again, a huge entourage showed up occupy a unit for the weekend, seeking hotel service and amenities. That situation alone, that has yet to be stopped despite law and CC&R restrictions, is reason enough to feel uncomfortable here. Strangers in the building, for a night or two or three at a time? And staff being sidetracked answering to these folks' whims and questions? Ridiculous.

newtenant, did you ever run across THIS??? http://www.nytimes.com/1988/06/25/nyregion/ceiling-of-200-a-night-hotel-room-collapses-killing-guest.html

interesting.

Nokomarie, are you a renter at Windsor park? You identified yourself as a Broker.

As an FYI...the building was gutted. This article is not relevant.

I find it very interesting that oldtimer21 is now involved in this discussion right about the same time as nokomarie and newtenant. Very easy to set-up 3 different email accounts and be one person.

This building only has 100 units. I can't belive that during a business day that there would be this many peopole involved in a discussion about a condominium building. I only logged on because I heard from someone else that someone was trashing our building and saying things that were untrue.

So Nokomarie, are you a renter?

I KNEW he wouldn't believe the truth. Now he's expanding it to include another in the web of deception that (we/I) are weaving. Yowzer! That IS paranoia.

If you're so convinced, keep believing your series of stories. If you really want to know, contact Street Easy and see if they'll tell you if the IP addresses are the same. Should be easy enough to discern separate identities.

Wait, you logged in a day ago, because you heard of someone trashing the building EIGHT WEEKS AGO? In the posts in the last eight weeks I see no trashing. Just a lot of defense on your part, and a fair and balanced and accurate portrayal from others. In no instance have you refuted facts. But you've invested a lot of time into this in 24 hours, responding to three (or is it really only ONE) people. Maybe (we/I) will form another, and another, and ANOTHER identity - won't that be crazy making?? I can't speak for the others (or CAN I?) but it would seem there wasn't much traffic recently (prior to your glowing missive) because there wasn't anything worth responding to until you proffered your many illusory opinions (while patently disregarding objective facts).

Does this mean if I stop writing, then oldtimer 21 and newtenant will too? The mystery deepens. Oops, I mean the paranoia. Deal in facts. Much less entertaining, but more viable.

Nokomarie,

Are you a renter?

Nokomarie,

If you hate the building so much then why have you rented for 2 years? For sure if the building was so bad you would have left instead of renewing your lease for an additional year. Instead of trashing our building because you have a gripe with someone, why not move out and rent at another building. There are many buildings in NY to chose from. Not sure why you would renew and then trash us?

Your comments don't warrant an answer because they are not based in fact. Again. Note that I never said I hated the building and in fact pointed out some positive attributes. I didn't trashed the building, only stated facts as to issues. (I guess you might regard these matters as significant and negative, since you equate my facts to "trashing".) And if you want to keep attacking me, rather than dealing with facts about the subject of this post - WINDSOR PARK - then I don't wish to match wits with an unarmed enemy. Ciao.

I am just trying to understand why you would renew your lease and then trash the building? is the real estate business that bad that you would focus so much of your time responding on this site when you could be out showing apartments? Are you angry at your landlord? Something ticked you off to get you this angry.

Since we both live in the same building and we both seem to have some extra time to make comments on this site, why don't we meet for coffee to discuss your issues. I would like to get a handle on why you are so angry and what would drive you to trash our building with false information?

thank you for your lovely invitation. however I don't meet strangers for coffee or otherwise.
no renewal.
I don't show apartments. but your snide comments are indicative of your pathology.
I'm not angry in the least. very happy and content, thank you very much.
I don't drink coffee.
And you don't have do worry or get a handle on my emotions - please focus on your own mental health.
and, for the last time, I have not trashed (y)our building.

Apparently oldtimer21 and newtenant ARE me because they're not jumping in to defend my honor. :-)

Okaaaay, I really planned not to post anymore. But I receive auto notification about new posts (subscribed few years ago when I was renting here)- this is the reason that I replied to herberwhatever nonsense. Just received another one and I guess will post for the last time. Just to make sure we are clear-I am not talking to herber..-I am not a doctor. And I AM defending your honor, as I would defend anybody's honor. :)

Oldtimer21, thank you for your honesty. It is refreshing to see to see that honorable people still exist. Being the ownwer doesnt mean we have to lie on the web (it is very very bad trait to have anywhere as a matter of fact). You are a good example of responsible and respected ownwer. We can own AND acknowledge negative facts and not participate in a criminal activity of hiding serious info. Any buyer/renter who will come my way, will receive a full disclosure. Good luck to herbertbernard's ones. Thanks again, oldtimer-you are a stand up guy. (I assume :)

Nokomarie, well said- all of it. The 6M dollars units in a building on the same street was a hysterical example. Its the same if 'jonny's burger' would start charging $30 per burger because Spago next door has $200 steak. :)))

My advice is stop feeding this mental/paranoidal case, its beyond any medical help. In addition, that person is clearly miserable, I feel sorry for him in a way-its very tough way of living- and by replying to him further you just feeding his illness. You know the truth about the building, many do too, so be it. You are too normal to communicate with this type of entity.

This started as a good constructive thread, where people asked questions and were posting their honest opinions. Utill now, thanks to we know who.

Best wishes everybody, I need to turn up TV volume- too much noise from neighbors, and they do not even go overboard- its building's poor consctruction-you hear EVERYTHING.

Thanks newtenant, I am "over and out" too. But I'm on my way to the pool, 'cause it's 80 degrees where I am! All the best to you, my covert "twin". LOL!! Peace, out.

Hey nokomarie (AKA newtenant):

When is your lease up?

Hey nokomarie (AKA newtenant):

You call me mental? All anyone has to do is read everything you wrote above to see who has the mental issues. I am only trying to set the record straight.

Anyone who actually owns in the building would never make the comments you wrote. You have an agenda. Not sure what it is.

I suspect you are a very lonely person who needs attention. That is why I am offering to buy you a drink so that we can sit and talk. Hey, were neighbors. A little friendly conversation would be great. We can meet at one of the local bars if you would like. Let me know. I am sure curious who you are and what your hidden agenda is?

Hahahaha! I am honored to have an intelligent person as a twin! I am happy to see that this craziness is over, especially stupid notorious questions "Are you a renter??? Are you an owner???" What the difference does it make?? What, owners are living in some different conditions and have different experiences than renters in the same building? How pathetic. Hahaha

Lucky you- 80 degrees! Now I know for sure that we are not the same person-its freezing where I am! Thanks for the clarification. Enjoy palms.

I think I've decoded the hidden agenda here. As W67 called it, herbie wants to buy up units and he's out to drive down prices. His posts have probably saved him a bunch of money.

Herbie goes bananas.

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Newt (I hope you don't mind the nickname - no political innuendo intended!), based on the last two postings, it appears that you've made someone sputter! (And I can only assume that Eric_14 is yet another pseudonym joining the conversation? ;-). This is like Sybil! Only crazier.)

Nokomarie, how was the pool? I am really not sure now, who is who here. Maybe I (we,she, he, they) have multiple personalities if not the same IP address. Just to confirm, was Eric14 in the pool with you also? Oldtimer was here with me in the cold dealing with noise and water leaks in the building.
And no, I dont mind a new nickname. As long as it is not 'herbie'.

W67, Eric14 and huntersburg-LOLOLOL!!! I am relly laughing reading your posts. Concise and very funny! Nokomarie, its definitely all you now-several different people cannot have the same great sense of humor.

Wendy if you don't like the building then lease in another building. Not sure why you have to trash our building?

herbertbernard - don't know any of the other folks on this forum but nice try but a very incorrect assessment. Back to the point of the topic: the building is VERY VERY lacking and underperforming. It's poorly maintained, leaks (AND YOU HAVE ADMITTED THIS HERBERT), and is generally not a very good building, especially for the area. So quit your online stalking and stick to the point of the thread and that is this: Windsor Park is a place to definately think twice about in terms of living or renting there.

ok oldtimer. Whatever you say.

My great nephew is moving to 58th Street but can you see the Park from there or is it blocked?

Nice improvements - or at least a good attempt - in refreshing the hallways, painting the apartment doors, updating the lobby and elevator cabs. May not agree with the finishes in all cases, but I appreciate that at least it looks revitalized.

Wow, I was considering buying a 1BR here.

Due to herbie's posts, I'm seriously reconsidering if that'd be a wise investment. If that's someone who champions the place, it concerns me why does this property need a "champion", and why can't it hire a better one.

I've still contacted the owner for a viewing anyway, but definitely will be on the lookout. nokomarie: so at least the management has embarked upon improvements? I noticed the common charges have increased significantly %-wise for the same units from past listings, guess that could be related.

prufrock, you are correct by rethinking your decision-its not worth it. There are plenty of other buildings around with much better light, amenities, finishes, overall quality and less problems. Save your money/invest wisely and avoid aggravation. I wish I did. And yes, common charges are too high for what residents are getting in return.

Prufrock I would echo newtenant's POV (and enjoyed your spot-on observations of the resident cheerleader). Look at all of your options carefully. For as much of what I think is "good", much of the good is negated by that which is not good. Because we're not talking about buying a pair of shoes that you're on the fence about. As they say, a hundred thousand here, a hundred thousand there and pretty soon it adds up to real money! So caveat emptor. Ask about the percentage of rentals - that's telling. Look at the decline in asking prices and how long some units have been on the market. Also telling. As for the improvements . . . like I said earlier, the effort is appreciated but the result? So far a little underwhelming and not to my taste. Plus the work is still in progress - the lobby is a mess right now. The jury is still out but I hope the quality is (a) better than what went into the unit construction and (b) better than the original common area installation.

The building is in a spectacular location! This renovation was designed by Gwathmey Siegel in the old Rosario pre-war building (previously the Windsor Park Hotel). This is a beautiful building and the re-designed hallways, elevators and lobby look beautiful. The appartments have beautiful layouts and nice 9 foot+ ceilings. The tallest residential building in NYC is under construction just a few doorsteps away along with other hotel renovations. Being 1 block from the Park is truly amazing. Good news about Jeckyl & Hyde closing. Also-the person who was illegally renting out their unit as a hotel room was issued a Court order and stopped. There is still more improvements being made to the building. The property values have been going up in the building and stay tuned they will move even higher.

For those of you contemplating purchasing at Windsor Park you are encouraged to visit the building and see for yourself. Usually people who are negative on the building don't own there and have a hidden agenda or they own and are in foreclosure. If they rent there--they probably are annoyed at their landlord for something.

Windosr Park is a beautiful building and all are welcome to visit!!!

Nokomarie--You are a renter at Winsor Park. You must not have much of a life to waste your time posting comments on this board Why don't you be a pest in another building. You must really hate your landlord.
Please get a life!!!

The only reason that some of the units in the building were sold at lower prices over the past few years was because a number of people originally bought their units as an investment and quick flip. When the market turned they became scared and sold at lower prices. In addition, the Sponsor originally did not really market their leftover units and then decided about a year or so ago that they wanted to quickly flip their leftover units and sold them at under market values. Most of these folks have been weeded out. There are still a few left in the building and it is anticipated that once these folks are gone, the values will go much higher (they have already been going hire) and the units will be priced much higher. As previously stated, this is an awesome building--great location and great service by excellent staff in the building. There are only 101 units in the building. If you see any prices at lower then market prices you should jump and purchase. You will never see prices like these again.

Anyone reading the negative comments above should beware of making a decision based on what is being said. Visit the building and you will love what you see.

>Most of these folks have been weeded out.

some sort of eugenics program in the building?

im seriously considering purchasing there, im interested in hearing from OWNERS, who have lived there for a while..

Herbert, When do you think the 1 block from park will start to show up sales? More restaurants?

Today's Metropolitan section has ads for the foreclosure auctions of 5F and 7C.

How come Herbert never responded to 300_Mercer who asked his question a full year after Herbert was last here?

is there anyone who gives a shit about you?

Yes

who?

Aboutready

that says it all about you.

Yeah, you are right, I should have picked someone better as my example.

don't you have someone like a pet goldfish?

until I joined the fraternity I did.

you were rejected by a goldfish?

huh?

lets talk about hfscommm1.

Interesting price history on some of the apartments for sale.

http://streeteasy.com/talk/discussion/40552-windsor-park