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U.S. Economy: Housing Prices Collapse at Near-Depression Pace

Started by manhattanfox
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By Bob Willis and Shobhana Chandra Dec. 23 (Bloomberg) -- Sales of single-family houses in the U.S. dropped in November by the most in two decades and resale prices collapsed at a pace reminiscent of the Great Depression, dashing speculation the market was close to a bottom. Purchases of both new and existing houses dropped 7.6 percent, the biggest decline since January 1989, to an annual rate of... [more]
Response by alpine292
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Response by w67thstreet
almost 17 years ago
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Alpine292... just wait for... nope keep waiting.... no not yet.... nope... not yet..... chk back in 18 months.... :)

Did anyone see the article about madoff suicide? NOTHING... is worth that... life is short... it's over in a blink... no need to rush things....

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Response by w67thstreet
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not madoff an associate of madoff...

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Response by alpine292
almost 17 years ago
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I hope your right w67. I'm not buying until I get a discount of at least 0.5%!

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Response by stevejhx
almost 17 years ago
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Put it into perspective:

"Regionally, existing-home sales in the Northeast dropped 12.0 percent to an annual pace of 730,000 in November, and are 18.0 percent lower than a year ago. The median price in the Northeast was $257,700, down 0.1 percent from November 2007."

The less they fall, the fewer will sell.

And in NY we're just at the beginning of the cycle.

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Response by alpine292
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The bulk of the price declines are in CA and FL because they have a gazillion foreclosures. Of the total number of houses that sell in CA, about 50% of them are pre-foreclosures, short sales, or bank owned REOs. For the NY metro area, the number of distressed sales is less than 10%.

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Response by nyc10022
almost 17 years ago
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The Bed Beige Book / Miller Samuel show Manhattan median down 20% now (with 75% sales decline).

That is actually a faster decline than any other market in the country.

Its probably time to stop saying how Manhattan will be different because of this factor and that factor. Clearly it is different, but clearly it was its own bubble. The patterns might be different, but its got its own crash now.

Its here. We now have data on this market. You can say all you want about how there is no subprime, there is glut, etc.... but that just makes it worse. We now have those declines, and the Alt-A stuff has barely hit. This is just the beginning.

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Response by w67thstreet
almost 17 years ago
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alpine292.. r u being coy... just 50bps?... take the decimal... move it over 2 places... hmmmm.....

Let's see which coast and locales did all my banking buddies buy their second homes.... oh I Know... bi-coastal banker doubles down in LA and NYC.. then buy one for his mistress in Miami.... lost my job... dump my vacation and mistress homes (she'll have to bunk with the wife :) ) and hold on like mad(off) to Manhattan 4bdrm.... cause Rachel said "Never Goes Down."

How'm I doing nyc10022?

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Response by julia
almost 17 years ago
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when will it happen. West 45th street a small one bedroom purchased in '04 for $250k up for sale at $425k..when will it come down to '04 or '05 pricing????

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Response by w67thstreet
almost 17 years ago
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Gotta go spank some more balls.... every ball I spank makes me money as the 5bdrm in UWS becomes cheaper by the minute... watch out for Dead Cat bounce at $1000psf.....you've been warned "himwhoknows"

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Response by hotproperty
almost 17 years ago
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What do the Alt-A loans have to do with Manhattan?

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Response by w67thstreet
almost 17 years ago
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julia....why wait for 04' when you can get an 01' (darn that sounds like a car salesman... a notch above RE borkers... I couldn't resist)

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Response by NYinmyblood
almost 17 years ago
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Julia--last summer you bid on an apartment for 460K. Now 424K is too much for you.

You have to pick a figure that you feel comfortable with and stick to it or as prices slide so will the amount you're willing or able to spend. Then one day--might be in two years, might be in ten, prices will start going up and you will wish you had bought....

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Response by w67thstreet
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julia... don't listen to a borker stalking you for like 1 1/2 yrs... :)

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Response by nyc10022
almost 17 years ago
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"What do the Alt-A loans have to do with Manhattan?"

time to add that one to the funny quotes list.

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Response by dwell
almost 17 years ago
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Julia,
if you can, watch & wait. As the economy erodes, prices will decline.

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