Rental at 10 West 74th Street -7 rooms?

no way to get to 7. oversight? I can understand lying about the square footage but the number of rooms? Perhaps they are considering the SubZero has a room?

This one is claiming 8 rooms!!! http://www.streeteasy.com/nyc/rental/452417-rental-10-west-74th-street-upper-west-side-new-york

What's up with Elliman and this building??

not to mention the 7 ft wide dining room...also, what is the meaning of a "COURTESY LISTING?" no need to be accurate, merely courteous?

I think courtesy means, they are doing you a favor, owner is paying fee. Not that it isn't implied in the rent, but, whatever.

so...why not say, "no fee" or "fee paid by owner?" too low class?

I like low class

Wow - this entire building is totally overpriced. Their 1 Bedrooms are over $4,000. Yikes. Not a great building either.

interesting when you look back at rental history -- nothing showing close to these crazy prices. wonder if these are long term stabilized apartments slowly being vacated...

courtesy listing doesn't mean "no fee" it's a term brokers use amongst each other to describe the fee arrangement. The reason it's coming up on the website like that is b/c the listing is auto uploaded from the broker's internal database. In any case,I think the fee is 1 month but I could be wrong. The agent, Fenton, has a lot of rental exclusives in very high end rental buildings. I'm more familiar w/ the ones on the UES & I can tell you that they are incredible so I'm a little surprised that 10 W 74th isn't of the same caliber.

A classic 6 is 2 br - 2 bath - dr - lr (plus kitchen and maids).

This is an 8 room (3 br - 3 bath - DR and LR). The kitchen is a given -- making it an apt.

oh, you count bathrooms. interesting...that went completely over my head. The classics don't count baths. I need to remain more flexible ;)

deliver me from this nonsense. so fox, how would you define an apartment known to everyone except you as a four room apartment, ie. kitchen, lr, 2 br + 2 baths? that's a five? go back to wherever the hell you came from and stay there.

columbiacounty -- i have flagged your comment for review -- you are inappropriate in your language and attitude and should not be on these sites. Consider yourself delivered...

uwsmom --

I sold my classic six and that is how the broker told me to count. Maids rooms are not to be included on bedroom count. I have been told that lawsuits have come from mismarketing...

Good luck.

so the broker made you do it?!

you still didn't answer my question about the 4 room apartment that includes two bathrooms. based on your math, that would be impossible.

from an article sept 2007
Apartment Room Count:

1 room Studio with pullman kitchen
1½ rooms Studio with pullman kitchen and alcove or dining area
2 rooms Studio with separate kitchen
2½ rooms Studio with separate kitchen and sleeping alcove
2½ rooms 1 bedroom with Pullman kitchen and living room
3 rooms 1 bedroom, living room, kitchen
3½ rooms 1 bedroom, living room, kitchen, dining area
4 rooms 1 bedroom, living room, kitchen, dining room - or -2 bedrooms, living room, kitchen
4½ rooms 2 bedrooms, living room, kitchen, dining area
5 rooms 2 bedrooms, living room, kitchen, dining room
5½ rooms 3 bedrooms, living room, kitchen, dining area
6 rooms 2 bedrooms, living room, kitchen, dining room, maid's room
7 rooms 3 bedrooms, living room, kitchen, dining room, maid's room - or -2 bedrooms, living room, kitchen, dining room, 2 maid's rooms
8 rooms 3 bedrooms, living room, kitchen, dining room, 2 maid's rooms
9 rooms Typically 3 bedrooms, library, living room, dining room, kitchen, 2 maid's rooms
10 rooms Typically 3 bedrooms, library, living room, dining room, kitchen, 3 maid's rooms
11 rooms Typically 4 bedrooms, library, living room, dining room, kitchen, 3 maid's rooms
12 rooms Typically 4 bedrooms, library, living room, dining room, kitchen, either 4 maid's rooms or servant hall and 3 maid's rooms
13 rooms 4 bedrooms, library, living room, dining room, kitchen, 4 maid's rooms and servant's hall
14 rooms 5 bedrooms, library, living room, dining room, kitchen, 4 maid's rooms and servant's hall

flipped bathrooms for maid's and kitchen...

hope that helps

huh?

according to what you sent, bathrooms aren't counted.

that was the point that uwsmom made in the first place.

I directly corrected my answer and noted my mistake of flipping br for kitchen and maid's --

has anyone seen these apts? curious about the renovations

I'm curious too bb. If there's an open house, I'll go. If the 3 br's are still around in May, I'll try to see them. And if they're any good, I probably won't write them up ;). If i see them and rule them out, I'll let you know :)

For room counts, you count kitchens but NOT bathrooms. For the OP's apartment, I would give 1/2 for the foyer, so it's a five-and-a-half. The second one, though I am reluctant to count a 7-foot-wide "dining" room, is a six.

ali r.
{downtown broker}

My grandmother lived in that building and the "eight room" apartment looks like her old 3.5 with two bedrooms hooked on. When she lived there, half the dining room(!) was the kitchen and the part overlooking the living room had a little table and 3 chairs. The current kitchen was the foyer and the only bedroom was the 12x15 corner. It was perfectly all right, but about as far from swanky as I can imagine.

and i'll bet her rent was a little bit less too.

yeah - I'm not sure how you would use the 7 foot wide dining area. Probably not as a dining area at all...

Bathrooms are 100% not supposed to be counted as rooms. Any broker that plays that game should have their license revoked. Thats the kind of thing that gives brokers such a bad name; the outright lying and deception that everyone hates.

broker did not tell me that -- i screwed it up. sorry. sorry. sorry. artcle above outlines rebny guidelines...