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Sale at 201 East 80th Street #12C

Started by beepops
almost 17 years ago
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Discussion about 201 East 80th Street #12C
Unbelievable apartment. The light is terrific and it has a real terrace. These owners have considered current market conditions. It is priced well. I'd love to get other feed back before I make an offer. Lemme know what you think.
Response by modern
over 16 years ago
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Member since: Sep 2007

Since there are so few sales, she has plenty of time to show it to the one or two lookers per month.

The biggest problem is she is clueless and probably truly believes it is priced "well".

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Response by dwell
over 16 years ago
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http://ny.therealdeal.com/articles/biggest-price-cut-of-the-day--60

Biggest price cut of the day

Two homes tied for the greatest price cut of the day each with a $300,000 reduction, according to Streeteasy.com...........The second home is apartment 12C at 201 East 80th Street, which is listed with Halstead Property's Beverly Feingold for $1.995 million. The two-bedroom, two-bath condo is now on the market for 13 percent less than its asking price of $2.295 million when it hit the market in January. TRD

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Response by newbuyer99
over 16 years ago
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I am sticking with my prediction. $1.3-1.4MM or off-the-market.

I wouldn't even pay that, but it's a nice apartment, and I won't be shocked if someone does.

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Response by upperwestrenter
over 16 years ago
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I wish our friend feingirl would come back and CHALLENGE us to find a better deal out there.
Guess it wasn't such a good deal, huh?

Another classic quote from her, "contact BHS for square footage"
Who should we ask for? Agent Rachel?

Too funny

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Response by dwell
over 16 years ago
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Response by columbiacounty
over 16 years ago
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and no one will rent it for that either.

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Response by dwell
over 16 years ago
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I know. This apt deserves the "Delusional Price" award.

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Response by newbuyer99
over 16 years ago
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I think the rental ask is a bit less delusional than the sales ask, in my opinion. I predict it rents for $6500 (if at all), or around 25% below ask. I continue to stick with my $1.3-1.4MM sale prediction (if at all), or 33% below current ask.

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Response by columbiacounty
over 16 years ago
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how much do you think the terrace is worth? $4,500 a month tops without it, in my opinion.

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Response by patient09
over 16 years ago
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Response by UESBandit
over 16 years ago
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Speaking of amazing cuts, she just recently reduced the asking rent by a WHOPPING $4. Yes you read that correctly, $4. Apparently Feingirl doesnt realize that reducing rental and sales prices by .0000000001% only makes her look bad. When people can see the price history, the broker really needs to put a little thought into this.

Here are my projections:

What the place could/should rent for: $6000 per month
What the place could/should sell for: $1.1M (at most)

This means Feingirl needs to have a pow wow with the owner, QUICKLY. The price of that apartment certainly isnt going UP anytime soon.

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Response by patient09
over 16 years ago
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bump;;; I noticed that Bev dropped the part about "priced to sell", does that now mean she is not trying to sell it, or that it is only available to a fool? Because in her own description, it is no longer priced to sell.

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Response by columbiacounty
over 16 years ago
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shit...she didn't even rent it?

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Response by UESBandit
about 16 years ago
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I wanted to let everyone know that not only has this place not sold (nor the price reduced to anywhere near where it will need to be), but the price has just been RAISED by $1000 per month! Now clearly $1000 per month on a $2m apartment (hardeeharhar!) was just to get it to show up in the "price recently changed" listings, but its still a lame attempt to move this apartment. Bev, please take the advice you have seen here (and mine specifically). PLEASE, PLEASE smack some sense into the owner of this place. You claim to have known them for many years, so explain to them that they need to price the apartment at $1.2m and prepare to negotiate DOWN from there. With the holiday season coming up, think about the commission and what it will do for you.

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Response by falcogold1
about 16 years ago
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BEVERLY H. FEINGOLD does not control this apartment...the seller does. The seller has a right to keep this on the market forever. This reminds me of my cousin Leon. Back in the 70's when everyone was wearing super wide ties cousin Leon stuck with his narrow black IBM tie. At family functions everyone would poke fun at Leon's ties. My dad would say,"Leon will keep wearing them until they come back into style". Strangly enough the mid 80's ushered back the narrow tie and just as my dad predicted, Leon was back in style....sort of.

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Response by NYC411
about 16 years ago
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they have been agonizing over between 1 to 5 bucks for months. i've never seen anything quite like it.
05/15/2009 Price decreased by 15% to $8,500.
05/30/2009 Price decreased by 0% to $8,499.
06/13/2009 Price decreased by 0% to $8,498.
06/30/2009 Price increased by 0% to $8,499.
07/06/2009 Price decreased by 0% to $8,495.

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Response by columbiacounty
about 16 years ago
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classic beverly bullshit:

"I don't want to argue with you. It will trade where the market says it will trade.
As I have always said, no matter what the market, it is the buyers who make the market.
Owners and brokers can price as they see fit. If it sells, it sells, if it rents, it rents.
Which brings me to the benefit of a condo. It can always be rented. When you talk about Park and WEA, you are talking about coops. There really is a difference. You will see coop prices fall faster than condos. Just to clarify a small point, I am not priced at $1400 per square foot, asking, I am at $1333, asking."

6 months later, it appears that the market has spoken.

tough luck to beverly and her wonderful owners.

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Response by Rhino86
about 16 years ago
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Are we still waiting for this to trade? I didnt read all the posts... Now its for rent too? Coming out of a credit bubble, its foolish to think that condos wont fall faster than coops. Its called leverage.

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Response by NWT
about 16 years ago
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Rhino86, yes, still on the market since January 2009. Back in April they also listed it for rent, at $10K. In May they reduced it to $8.5K, where it's sat ever since.

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Response by Rhino86
about 16 years ago
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Its not even a real 3-bed and thats 3rd avenue? Yeah, both the rent and the ask is way off. $6500 / $1.3mm is right.

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Response by NWT
about 16 years ago
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Just to save lots of scrolling, the owners paid $754K back in 1997.

It can't even be a fake 3-bedroom, as there'd be only a half-bath accessible from the dining L.

UESBandit, right, she does need to read them the Riot Act. But then, if they want to sit on the market forever, no skin off our backs. Can't believe Beverly's devoting much energy to this anymore.

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Response by Rhino86
about 16 years ago
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$750k in 1997....it sounds like they overpaid and expect a triple like the market has done since then.

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Response by columbiacounty
about 16 years ago
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according to halstead website, its her only listing. i just love her comment about it trading where the market say it will trade.

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Response by Rhino86
about 16 years ago
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I love when brokers get pissy like that and then I see the listing still sitting there six months later. The market is speaking and the silence is deafening haha.

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Response by modern
about 16 years ago
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Response by Rhino86
about 16 years ago
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Be interesting to see if it sticks....especially with the stock market teetering!

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Response by modern
about 16 years ago
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I guess every agent like Bev is now going to put a bunch of bananas on the HVAC unit and call it a "breakfast nook".

Who wants to guess where it closes? I say FULL ASK, the power of bananas!

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Response by newbuyer99
about 16 years ago
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I am shocked. If it closes, I will guess $1.6MM, which would still mean someone is either dumb or way too rich to care.

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Response by modern
almost 16 years ago
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Off market, looks like it closed. Good work Bev!

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Response by columbiacounty
almost 16 years ago
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yet nothing in ACRIS.

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Response by nyc10023
almost 16 years ago
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FYI, this is Ramona (from RHONYC)'s bldg.

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Response by NWT
almost 16 years ago
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Speaking of which, Jill and Bobby still haven't unloaded theirs (http://streeteasy.com/nyc/sale/434024-condo-401-east-60th-street-lenox-hill-new-york) while their upstairs neighbors got the job done and are in contract (http://streeteasy.com/nyc/sale/405368-condo-401-east-60th-street-lenox-hill-new-york). I need to find the help-my-neighbor-is-undercutting-my-price thread....

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Response by Rhino86
almost 16 years ago
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$5000 a month in charges. That sucks.

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Response by sidelinesitter
almost 16 years ago
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StreetEasy History
01/11/2009 Listed by Halstead Property at $2,295,000.
04/23/2009 Price decreased by 13% to $1,995,000.
07/06/2009 Price decreased by 0% to $1,994,500.
08/07/2009 Price decreased by 2% to $1,949,000.
09/08/2009 Price increased by 0% to $1,950,000.
10/28/2009 Listing entered contract.
12/20/2009 Listing is no longer available.
02/22/2010 Sale recorded for $1,850,000.

Closed 19% below the initial ask, but given the doomsday price predictions above I think the edge goes to feingirl on this one.

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Response by NWT
almost 16 years ago
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Good catch, sidelinesitter. I'm getting lax with follow-up....

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Response by newbuyer99
almost 16 years ago
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I am staying with my "dumb or too rich to care" view, although sidelinesitter is right - feingeirl only needed one to bite, and she did. Good for her and her client.

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Response by nyc10023
almost 16 years ago
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Kinda shocking - 1.85 for a convertible 3 with outdoor space.

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Response by dwell
almost 16 years ago
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Fein Miracle Worker

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Response by patient09
almost 16 years ago
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I agree, I was wrong. I predicted a year ago this unit would trade at a much lower number. Feingirl= salesperson of year....just don't hire her on the buyside...I actually have some junk to sell, might give her a call.

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