Democrats and ACORN are all of our housing problems today

Are these the latest RNC talking points? I didn't get them. Make sure Michael Steele and Rush Limbaugh remember to send them to me next time.

Dude, whoever is paying you to post on real estate websites about the democrats and acorn and the housing market in some lame attempt at astroturfing should really hire better people. You're an absolute moron. This makes no sense. What are you talking about? Is this like an excerpt from whatever it is you're supposed to post in chat rooms? It's utterly incoherent.

Can't stop laughing!

LOL
ACORN isn't responsible for housing problems.
Hookers and drugs maybe. Not mortgages.

It is true. All true. The Evil Left people. Only them. Nobody else. Great Post. Very thoughtful and informative.

my name is george, um, w. bush. and i didn't really have a f'ng life, so much to the eventual chagrin of mom and pop that they (and some real nasty a-holes, but i don't recall, of course) convinced the republican party to set me up in power? and it was great? except it wasn't? and kind of like that earlier decade i don't recall, i don't have much memory of this? what did i do? or not? other members of the family are kind of pissed. jeb really jabs me in the kidneys these days during the family tackle football games. and laura has refused to mix me a drink for at least a decade, 'tho i don't really recall. let's go shootin' dick.

George, um, w. bush. Happened to be Governor of Texas before being President. Had owned the Rangers.

I didn't pick him. But Clinton fucked it up for Gore.

And then of all of the Democrats, John Kerry was the best one out there? lol. Obama has been the Democrats savior. Before that they couldn't even beat George W. Bush.

no, actually, gore fucked it up for gore. and if you want to look at the elections results with any degree of legality?

and gwb? you think governor of texas isn't a position that can be purchased? what did he do there? ever?

lol, it's all a conspiracy and EVERYONE is AGAINST YOU.

"and if you want to look at the elections results with any degree of legality?"
Um, how about the United States Supreme Court? I'm not arrogant enough to assume I have a better sense of legality than the United States Supreme Court.
But lets say the United States Supreme Court was wrong. So then the whole United States Congress (that other branch) just sat quiet?

lol, it's all a conspiracy and EVERYONE was FOR GEORGE W. BUSH. EVERYONE.

I can't wait till John Edwards comes back into the Democrats picture.

ACORN, Obama, and the Mortgage Mess
By Mona Charen

The financial markets were teetering on the edge of an abyss last week. The secretary of the Treasury was literally on his knees begging the speaker of the House not to sabotage the bailout bill. The crash of falling banks made the earth tremble. The Republican presidential candidate suspended his campaign to deal with the crisis. And amid all this, the Democrats in Congress managed to find time to slip language into the bailout legislation that would provide a dandy little slush fund for ACORN.

ACORN stands for the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, a busy hive of left-wing agitation and "direct action" that claims chapters in 50 cities and 100,000 dues-paying members. ACORN is where Sixties leftovers who couldn't get tenure at universities wound up. That the bill-writing Democrats remembered their pet clients during such an emergency speaks volumes. This attempted gift to ACORN (stripped out of the bill after outraged howls from Republicans) demonstrates how little Democrats understand about what caused the mess we're in.

ACORN does many things under the umbrella of "community organizing." They agitate for higher minimum wages, attempt to thwart school reform, try to unionize welfare workers (that is, those welfare recipients who are obliged to work in exchange for benefits) and organize voter registration efforts (always for Democrats, of course). Because they are on the side of righteousness and justice, they aren't especially fastidious about their methods. In 2006, for example, ACORN registered 1,800 new voters in Washington. The only trouble was, with the exception of six, all of the names submitted were fake. The secretary of state called it the "worst case of election fraud in our state's history." As Fox News reported:

"The ACORN workers told state investigators that they went to the Seattle public library, sat at a table and filled out the voter registration forms. They made up names, addresses, and Social Security numbers and in some cases plucked names from the phone book. One worker said it was a lot of hard work making up all those names and another said he would sit at home, smoke marijuana and fill out the forms."

ACORN explained that this was an "isolated" incident, yet similar stories have been reported in Missouri, Michigan, Ohio, and Colorado -- all swing states, by the way. ACORN members have been prosecuted for voter fraud in a number of states. (See www.rottenacorn.com.) Their philosophy seems to be that everyone deserves the right to vote, whether legal or illegal, living or dead.

ACORN recognized very early the opportunity presented by the Community Reinvestment Act (CRA) of 1977. As Stanley Kurtz has reported, ACORN proudly touted "affirmative action" lending and pressured banks to make subprime loans. Madeline Talbott, a Chicago ACORN leader, boasted of "dragging banks kicking and screaming" into dubious loans. And, as Sol Stern reported in City Journal, ACORN also found a remunerative niche as an "advisor" to banks seeking regulatory approval. "Thus we have J.P. Morgan & Co., the legatee of the man who once symbolized for many all that was supposedly evil about American capitalism, suddenly donating hundreds of thousands of dollars to ACORN." Is this a great country or what? As conservative community activist Robert Woodson put it, "The same corporations that pay ransom to Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton pay ransom to ACORN."

ACORN attracted Barack Obama in his youthful community organizing days. Madeline Talbott hired him to train her staff -- the very people who would later descend on Chicago's banks as CRA shakedown artists. The Democratic nominee later funneled money to the group through the Woods Fund, on whose board he sat, and through the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, ditto. Obama was not just sympathetic -- he was an ACORN fellow traveler.

Now you could make the case that before 2008, well-intentioned people were simply unaware of what their agitation on behalf of non-credit-worthy borrowers could lead to. But now? With the whole financial world and possibly the world economy trembling and cracking like a cement building in an earthquake, Democrats continue to try to fund their friends at ACORN? And, unashamed, they then trot out to the TV cameras to declare "the party is over" for Wall Street (Nancy Pelosi)? The party should be over for the Democrats who brought us to this pass. If Obama wins, it means hiring an arsonist to fight a fire.

http://www.forbes.com/2009/09/17/fox-news-congress-cra-opinions-contributors-sol-stern.html

Acorn is now exclusively a Democratic Party albatross. The organization’s many abuses of power now coming to light have been enabled by Democratic mayors, governors and congressmen. If Barack Obama wants to effectively refute the charge by some on the right that he has a secret socialist agenda, he has the perfect opportunity. All he has to do is declare that his administration will henceforth act to block taxpayer funds from ever again going to this very openly radical and socialist organization.

This thread makes the "rent vs. buy" threads seem almost interesting...

If we began attacking and shutting down large organizations for what a couple of staff members have done, I'd think all organizations (for profit or non-profit) would be in trouble.

"Acorn is now exclusively a Democratic Party albatross."

I bet if you did a nationwide poll you'd see that most Americans have never heard of ACORN (aside for the fall-from-a-tree type). I bet, at most, it's 10, 20 percent. And half of that number are probably volunteers for the damn place. No matter how far the right tries, big picture, nobody gives a crap. Same with this teabag stuff. We're talking a tiny tiny minority. The mainstream media will get bored covering it, and these people will look like bigger and bigger nuts. No matter how hard the right wing media tries, they just can't create a populist uprising out of nowhere. The left is even worse at it, actually. This is a country that rules and is ruled from the center.

"All he has to do is declare that his administration will henceforth act to block taxpayer funds from ever again going to this very openly radical and socialist organization."

You clearly know nothing about politics. Or maybe you're just young. Why would he bother saying anything?

how long until the birthers post a thread on SE?

Birthers Bulls and Bears oh my.

I bet if you did a nationwide poll you'd see that....

I bet if you did a poll a majority could not name our Country's First President and
Vice President.

If we began attacking and shutting down large organizations for what a couple of staff members have done

Couple of issues
First I agree with the statement above and it is true that on multiple occasions ACORN has cooperated with law enforcement in particular the Florida voting irregulatiry... but Ihave the following concerns.

1) On the Prostitution videos, the ACORN representatives appeared too comfortable with their responses suggesting this was not a unique situation
2) The Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN) is a collection of community-based organizations, so its hard to know if criticisms are really about parent organization or a member group, however.. assuming for the moment that all the actions in the press are not condoned or approved by ACORN it leads me to wonder if they are well managed from the top. If the various allegations about voting and the prostitution assistance are the result of loose managerial oversight, Congress acted apropriated by shutting off funds.

Non-Profits have the same needs as For-Profits in strong organizational oversight.

The Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN) is a collection of community-based organizations. Non-Profits cannot simply justify themselves based on their mission statement but on how effective and efficient they are in acheiving that. Supervising and monitoring their organziation and members is part of that.

In 2009 anyone who affiliates with and especially fights for either of the two major political parties in our country is a TOOL. Both are corrupt. Both can't stop spending money we don't have. Neither of these parties are the solution and in fact both are the problem. We need to fight against them not for them. Clearly the Dems aren't bringing the "change" we all voted for and that Obama promised us and clearly the Republicans (who now claim to be fiscal conservatives) spend money just as quickly if not faster than the Dems.

True Dat!

"ACORN is where Sixties leftovers who couldn't get tenure at universities wound up."

Amen to that!

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/11/13/acorn.investigation/

(CNN) -- Community organizing group ACORN, investigated this year for filing fraudulent voter registration forms, has fired two board members it had asked to investigate allegations that an ACORN founder's brother embezzled nearly $1 million.

The fired board members were investigating allegations that money was embezzled from ACORN eight years ago.

An internal document from the ACORN executive board, obtained by CNN, shows that members Karen Inman and Marcel Reid were "removed from any office or committee position you may have held."

A separate document says that "the memberships of Karen Inman and Marcel Reid in ACORN is canceled, and they are removed from the Association Board."

In 2008, Acorn’s national board assigned two members, Karen
Inman and Marcel Reid, to conduct an internal investigation of
allegations that the brother of an Acorn founder had embezzled
almost $1 million. As part of the inquiry, Inman and Reid sought
access to the group’s books. They were then dismissed from the
board and stripped of their membership, shutting down the
internal inquiry, according to a CNN report.

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How does an opaque organizatin with these kind of controls gain access to Tax Payer Money?
There were clear smoking guns.
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The Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now
is no fringe organization. It is woven into the political
firmament at the highest levels. Over the past 15 years, Acorn
has received more than $53 million from the U.S. government,
according to a recent report by House Republicans. Democrats
clearly appreciate the value they received for that funding.
While specific budget lines seldom include the word Acorn, the
group and similar nonprofits are eligible to receive as much as
$8.5 billion in stimulus money alone.

hey redbaiter--cant you put this shit up elsewhere?

isnt there some fox-related blog where you can release your windy stench?

ACORN got $53M from the Feds - anyone have a number of how much they got from local and state governments? I'd also be interested to see how much money government officials made developers (like Ratner) give to ACORN in order to get a project approved. Clearly Ratner didn't give ACORN money because he likes them he gave it because some politician (probably Marty) told him if he gave to ACORN he would get his support - and then of course in return ACORN supports Marty. It's all par for the course for US politics today and yet further proof that anyone who belongs to the Dem or Rep party in 2009 is a tool. Both parties are the problem.

ACORN is a joke. they are corrupt.

yep. but luckily the Democrats found them useful for obtaining votes.

Isn't that how it works, each scratch's the other's back

"Clearly Ratner didn't give ACORN money because he likes them he gave it because some politician (probably Marty) told him if he gave to ACORN he would get his support - and then of course in return ACORN supports Marty."

Wow! Do you think a developer actually bought off a politician AND a community group so he could go ahead with a controversial plan? No! Hey thanks Simple Jack. Did you get lost on your way to the retard forum?

"It's all par for the course for US politics today and yet further proof that anyone who belongs to the Dem or Rep party in 2009 is a tool."

Have you ever read a book about politics? Or history? Do you have any idea how the world works? Or are you just stumbling on this now?

avenueb - I'll never respond to your responses again - using the word "retard" is not an acceptable.

Fine. Retard.

@avenueb - your 2nd para makes me laugh heartily

ok

who and what the fuck is an acorn? i'm so sick about hearing about this acorn. what is it?

A Cyclobalanopsis, in the Fagaceae family

I love it... I'm sure noone will know...

>> Acorn cracked: reorganizes under new names
NYC branch, one controversial advocacy group's biggest, rebrands itself as New York Communities for Change.
http://www.crainsnewyork.com/article/20100222/FREE/100229977/1057

Crains has become nothing more than a Conservative rag. All they do is bash unions.

No, its a business mag.

And anyone who knows anything about business (or job creation) in NYC knows unions are by far the worst thing for it.

Crains is a local version of the Wall Street Journal

ACORN's partners in crime....

Working Families Party to spin off for-profit arm
http://www.crainsnewyork.com/article/20100223/FREE/100229964/1097

Remember, this is the same WFP that got John Liu and Diblasio (and almost everyone else) elected.

Any wonder why unions are bankrupting NYS?

Crains has always been a right-wing Chicago-based political rag masquerading as a business vehicle ... make no mistake about it. Likewise the Chamber of Commerce.

alanhart "my a typical socialist"

hey alanhart I thought you were running along to the government office to pick up your check.

barry obama used to work for acorn.

"Crains has always been a right-wing Chicago-based political rag masquerading as a business vehicle ... make no mistake about it. Likewise the Chamber of Commerce."

So, the information Crain's has given isn't true?

Facts are facts no matter how much someone yells "slant".

somewhereelse, I'm referring primarily to their editorials/opinions, but there's a LOT of spillover into their reporting/articles. But not as bad as BBC on the other end of the spectrum!