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The Visionaire

Started by rangersfan
about 16 years ago
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Member since: Oct 2009
Any updated insights on this building and whether 1,100 psf sounds right in this environment
Response by RE2009
about 16 years ago
Posts: 474
Member since: Apr 2009

i know it well, other then price what type of info are you looking for?

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Response by rangersfan
about 16 years ago
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Member since: Oct 2009

looking at value in this market and what the current thinking is, seems like a lot of inventory yet to be sold but pricing remains steep.

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Response by prada
about 16 years ago
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Member since: Jun 2007

Personally, I think you could try to make a "deal" if you are doing an all cash purchase.

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Response by rangersfan
about 16 years ago
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how much off asking?

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Response by front_porch
about 16 years ago
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Member since: Mar 2008

rangersfan, you have been circling this building for a long time.

You are now falling into the fallacy, though, of trying to value it for itself -- what should this building I like be worth psf?

But the BEST measure of value is to find a substitutable good. Since I know there really isn't any other comparable downtown condo (please don't lets' detour into a "Riverhouse vs. Visionaire" fight), you need to take stock, decide what apartment you would buy if you COULDN'T buy in the Visionaire, and then key your pricing off that plan B apartment.

It sounds hard-headed but it will work.

ali r.
{downtown broker}

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Response by RE2009
about 16 years ago
Posts: 474
Member since: Apr 2009

I cannot tell you if 1100 psf is a good price, that is something you have to know for yourself. what i can tell you is it is a great building, very sold, great finishes, great management company. the building is run well and it does not appear they are lowering the prices. i think what you can do is negotiate the closing costs. only you know if that is worth 1100 psf
how much inventory do you think is left?

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Response by rangersfan
about 16 years ago
Posts: 877
Member since: Oct 2009

thanks front porch, that makes sense - a little hesistant to pull the trigger in this environment - that is all. RE2009, you probably know that answer better than i do but i think its around 60% sold.

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Response by rangersfan
about 16 years ago
Posts: 877
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i guess the other thing i would add is should a buyer be wary when a new developement is "only" 60% sold after a year of being open.

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Response by NWT
about 16 years ago
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Member since: Sep 2008

Of the 248 units, 126 have closed so far.

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Response by nina15
about 16 years ago
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Member since: Sep 2009

is this building a land lease as well?

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Response by NWT
about 16 years ago
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Yes. Landlord is the Battery Park City Authority. BPC leases aren't like your run-of-the-mill situation, where a private landowner leases the land to a co-op, though. It's a whole other ball of wax, and is probably summarized here somewhere.

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Response by DonnaH
about 16 years ago
Posts: 7
Member since: Dec 2009

Anyone know why the taxes at RH are SO much higher than at Visionaire?

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Response by prada
about 16 years ago
Posts: 285
Member since: Jun 2007

Individual buildings negotiated their landlease with Battery Park City Authority,they are all different.

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Response by tmaxjd
almost 16 years ago
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Member since: May 2009

Land lease tax mostly depends on the building's footprint. Take the size of the footprint and divide by the number of apts. I think you'll find it is a much higher ration than the RH.

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