State of the market
Started by UES_Buyer
almost 16 years ago
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I was a reader of these message boards but stopped looking to buy about 1 1/2 years ago so stopped following it. I am now considering making a bid on an apartment in my building. It is a 2bd/2bt, doorman building, condo on ues. Does anyone have a sense on how this kind of apartment trades compared to (a) 2007 era and (b) 2009 era? My sense is that the crazy run ups have long ended and the price correction kicked in around late 2008 and early 2009, and that things have now leveled out. Not seeing run ups in price but things have settled into a comfort zone and deals are getting done. Appreciate honest feedback from what people have seen. Thanks.
I think we're just starting another leg down. owners have a lot of hope pegged to this spring. the equity market run up has people feeling good. the reality is that the job market is still bad and supply is up. my guess is that june is going to be an ugly month for owners.
I'll offer a few very rough estimates for 2/2s, based on anecdotal observation rather than hard data:
Prime UES pre-war, excellent-to-mint condition: 5-15% off peak.
Other prime UES: 10-20% off peak.
Non-prime UES (Yorkville/upper Carnegie): Up to 35% off peak, depending on condition.
Agree with Marco M that job market is big, if not #1 factor. There was an informative article in the most recent Cooperator about the RE market being heavily tied to jobs. Seems like NYC economy not shedding jobs, but not really adding any either....so there is a flatness. As for RE prices, I feel personally like they are all over the place. On the one hand there are places which are "defying the market", but then places which just sit and end up selling only at prices 35% or more off peak. Just leaves a big ? mark in my head.
Thanks W81. Care to address the same criteria for 2/2s on UWS?