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if you pay the entire amount up front

Started by thisowes
over 15 years ago
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there is a co-op im looking at priced around 300k, through my savings, inheritance and parental contribution i have the entire amount cash. my question is will there be a discount lets say 260k since i have the entire amount ready to go no checks credit worries or anything ? thankyou
Response by West81st
over 15 years ago
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Not necessarily. The most basic question is whether another qualified buyer will offer more than $260K. If so, there is not much reason to sell you the apartment for less than the other bidder would pay.

Also, a cash buyer isn't always the best-qualified buyer. The seller will look at your whole profile, not just your cash position, in deciding whether you are a slam-dunk for Board approval.

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Response by alanhart
over 15 years ago
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There are coops in Jackson Heights that won't allow all-cash purchases, presumably to cut down on the number of drug dealers residing in their buildings.

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Response by Sunday
over 15 years ago
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Can't they get a fully secured loan using drugs as collateral? I heard Italian banks accept cheese as collateral.

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Response by alanhart
over 15 years ago
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They make you put up four cheeses, so it's not as easy as it sounds. But these would be South American banks.

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Response by thisowes
over 15 years ago
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if you can prove where you got all the cash from your qualified, then if your record is clean you would be in good position i would think

i would think cash would be a convenient for them

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Response by janejoey
over 15 years ago
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"There are coops in Jackson Heights that won't allow all-cash purchases, presumably to cut down on the number of drug dealers residing in their buildings." that is really amazing. are you joking?

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Response by alanhart
over 15 years ago
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No, not joking ... it was told in all seriousness by a friend who bought in JH.

But not 100% sure it's true, and if so it could be that no bank would lend in those buildings at that time, for whatever reasons -- so all-cash buyers were required, not strictly by Board choice, bylaws or policy decision. But this was back in the bubble days, when it would really have taken a lot for a bank not to lend.

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Response by sjtmd
over 15 years ago
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Have made several all cash offers for coops in the past two years. The only time we seemed to get an "all cash discount" was because the seller was in a hurry - I'm guessing it was 3-5%, and we were rejected by the coop board. Everyone else said that all cash would only make a difference if they had to decide on equivalent bids. No mortgage application means a quicker transaction, not that big of a deal to warrant a discount.

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Response by thisowes
over 15 years ago
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sjtmd......................did you get rejected because of the all cash bid or other reasons ?

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Response by Wbottom
over 15 years ago
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There are coops in LIC that won't allow all-cash purchases, presumably to cut down on the number of drug dealers residing in their buildings.

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Response by janejoey
over 15 years ago
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joking or not it makes for good NYC lore.

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Response by Wbottom
over 15 years ago
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woops...i think i just cheated

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Response by alanhart
over 15 years ago
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Don't be ridiculous, Wbottom -- no drug dealer would be caught dead buying in LIC. They're successful businessmen for whom prestige and dignity are paramount.

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Response by hol4
over 15 years ago
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also don't forget certain boards won't approve a 10% discount since they want a higher price for reserves, pocketing, etc.. went through it myself.. offered all cash at measly 5% despite income requirements above and beyond minimum...

i got the vibe old board members were like 'this guy can afford full price, why not sell it to him at that' ..

boards can suck fat c*ck - not in a good way

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Response by falcogold1
over 15 years ago
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I once borrowed money from this Mickey Mouse Bank and they made me put up cheese as collateral.

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Response by falcogold1
over 15 years ago
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Turns out my house cat was able to get the payments modified.

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Response by alanhart
over 15 years ago
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meowdified

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