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Pay off student loans or save for downpayment

Started by bluepanda
almost 15 years ago
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My situation: 31 years old. Stable job as an attorney at a large law firm. Salary is $210,000 plus bonus (about $20K-$30K a year). Debt: I have $45,000 in student loans left (down from $175,000 when I graduated from law school) at 3.5% interest. I pay the monthly minimum of about $310. I also have a car loan of $25,000 with 2.9% interest. I have about $50,000 in my retirement funds and $50,000 in cash. Should I be trying to just pay off my student loan and car loan off asap? Should I continue making minimum payments and save for a down payment? Should I consider buying a place with an FHA loan so I don't need to come up with the 20%?
Response by JuiceMan
almost 15 years ago
Posts: 3578
Member since: Aug 2007

"Not sure where you are getting that from"

It was only an example swe. Just trying to understand the recommendation, not trying to give you grief. Sounds like there is some level of interest rate that would flip the recommendation (between 3.5% and 20%). Tough for me to get my head around, the value of compounding dollars 30 years from now vs. risk and cost of current debt. I would get rid of the debt first.

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Response by MidtownerEast
almost 15 years ago
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Geek -- My only point is that it would not be a very interesting story. Of course, I have a high threshold for boredom, which is why I am on this thread!

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Response by MidtownerEast
almost 15 years ago
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May I add that "bluepanda" sounds like the name of a sheet of paper that one should lick for a very groovy trip?

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Response by columbiacounty
almost 15 years ago
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No

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Response by MidtownerEast
almost 15 years ago
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See other advice on anger management/quelling the need to troll.

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Response by bluepanda
almost 15 years ago
Posts: 7
Member since: Jan 2011

No, I'm a very real person, asking a very real question about what to do with my savings and debt.

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Response by bluepanda
almost 15 years ago
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Member since: Jan 2011

And FYI, the place I am considering is a 2 bedroom 2 bath for about $669,000. I'm considering this in connection with moving in with my GF. I figured if I could just buy a place and then have her pay part of the mortgage instead of splitting the rent, it ought to be something I consider. Obviously we might break up, the roof might cave in, etc...

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Response by somewhereelse
almost 15 years ago
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It was only an example swe. Just trying to understand the recommendation, not trying to give you grief.

> Sounds like there is some level of interest rate that would flip the recommendation (between 3.5% and 20%).

So would a ton of other factors. So would him living in Greece. Or making $50k.

But he gave the specific parameters, including his rates.

With loan rates near inflation, paying them off quickly when you haven't put enough away is simply a bad move. Getting your cash reserve and paying off gross interest rates (lets say double digits) and then getting your retirement compounding going is a good #3.

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Response by bluepanda
almost 15 years ago
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Member since: Jan 2011

If I contribute $5K to my IRA now, for 2010, can I deduct it off my income when I file?

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Response by alanhart
almost 15 years ago
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You earn too much. Assuming your employer offers 401K.

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Response by alanhart
almost 15 years ago
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Too much for deduction, but not too much to contribute and have your gains/interest sheltered from taxes.

Please note that I am not an attorney, nor a tax professional, nor even a real person. I'm a username on an anonymous discussion board in cyberspace. Consult a professional professional.

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Response by huntersburg
almost 15 years ago
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>Please note that I am not an attorney, nor a tax professional, nor even a real person. I'm a username on an anonymous discussion board in cyberspace. Consult a professional professional.

Is your husband a litigation partner at a large law firm?

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Response by huntersburg
almost 15 years ago
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>Please note that I am not an attorney, nor a tax professional, nor even a real person.

And let me guess, you aren't even affiliated with another real estate web site

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Response by JuiceMan
almost 15 years ago
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Member since: Aug 2007

"So would a ton of other factors. So would him living in Greece. Or making $50k."

Yes, but what I was asking was at what interest rate does your recommendation change? 4.5%? 8.5%?

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Response by columbiacounty
almost 15 years ago
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why do you care?

the good news (for you) is that he is going to buy something.

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Response by somewhereelse
almost 15 years ago
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> Yes, but what I was asking was at what interest rate does your recommendation change? 4.5%? 8.5%?

Scroll above, I answered that.

But, back to the point I was making, if you can change one variable, why not change the others too?

But, in any case, the recommendation stands based on the actual situation.

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Response by newdig
over 14 years ago
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Member since: Jul 2010

so the girlfriend is going to be paying part of your mortgage???

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Response by buster2056
over 14 years ago
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Member since: Sep 2007

1) Don't pay off the student loans - that's a terrific rate with very manageable low monthly payments
2) If you still own the car, sell it and use the proceeds to pay off part/all of the balance
3) Continue to invest in your 401k at least up to the max that what your employer matches - it's an immediate 50-100% return on your investment in many cases
4) Rent with your gf below your means for a few years and build capital. My guess is that as a young, upwardly mobile attorney, you will quickly outgrow any place you can afford in the near term and will want to move before your property appreciates enough to matter/break-even. Plus you won't have to deal with any break-up risk.

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