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Sale at 57 Warren Street PENTHOUSE

Started by tribecasearch
about 15 years ago
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Member since: Nov 2008
Discussion about 57 Warren Street #PH8
Does anyone know why the maintenance is so high on this building?
Response by truthskr10
about 15 years ago
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well if you examine this unit at 1860 interior sq feet and 1150 exterior sq ft and a maintenance of $3883, that comes out to $1.29 per sq ft. THat's on the lower side for a coop. And coops treat outdoor space pretty equal to indoor space on maintenance.
But if you want to go with the sometimes disputed rule of thumb of 1 sq ft of outdoor equals half a foot of interior sq ft., then (1150 divided by 2) 575 + 1860 = 2435.
$3883 divided by 2435 = $1.59 per sq ft maintenance,still fairly average.

Now take into account from the description on the building;
>57 Warren Street is an 8 Story Cooperative building with 6 full floor loft apartments and 1 Penthouse with Private Outdoor space. A brand new elevator was installed in 2007/2008 and newly renovated lobby , intercom, common roof deck,

Given the small size of the entire coop and the recent upgrades, can't say the maintenance is horrific

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Response by 300_mercer
about 15 years ago
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truth, what you say about the maintenance is true for doorman buildings but the non doorman lofts usually are just $1 per sq ft. Also the place is 22*82 less elevator and stairs. Appx 1650-1700. Also, the roof access is via fire stairs. The building facade does not have any special architectural features. Not a great looking building in my opinion but nothing bad either. Great light. Truth, what would you pay for this place?

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Response by 300_mercer
about 15 years ago
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here is what i think the price is. 22*82 less stairs and elevator = 1700 sq ft. Add one third for the outdoor space as the access is not private. 400 sq ft. Total 2100. For normal maintenance of $2500, it would have sold for $1200 per sq ft ~ $2.5mm. Now adjust $300k for high maintenance which will only go up due to taxes and maintenance cost increases. $2.2mm. What do people think?

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Response by tribecasearch
about 15 years ago
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You also have to consider how that high maintenance translates down the road in resale value. Tough to unload a place with monthlies that high - note that this was previously on the market for almost $3m.

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Response by truthskr10
about 15 years ago
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300Mercer
The physical building is 25 by 84. That's 2100 sqft.
Knocking off 10 to 15% off of that is appropriate, as the sellers have done so as well at 1860 sq ft.
However, I greatly disagree with you on the treatment of stairs and elevator. Having an elevator and the full floor to yourself is a very great luxury. You cannot disclude this space, but I do pay less per sq ft for the space, as the market does as well with these type lofts.
Access by fire escape is indeed a negative and though it claims 4 exposures, it looks like it's next to a taller building that has at least one window overlooking the deck (another negative). But a proper deck that I still value at 1/2 an interior sq ft.
To me this is 1860 + 575 (1150 divided by 2) = 2435, but Im only paying $900 per sq ft for it.
Our methodology is different but conclusion is the same $2.2 max.

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Response by 300_mercer
almost 15 years ago
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I guess we are wrong. The place is in contract quickly. I would think that they did not take much of a cut.

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Response by truthskr10
almost 15 years ago
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Why are we wrong, it's what WE would pay for it.
Your surprised someone in NYC would pay 10/15% more than us for the unit?

If you take my 2435 sq ft evaluation but pay a more proper $1050 per sq ft condo average, there you are...
If you take your $1200 per sq ft evaluation but give a more proper 2100 square feet, there you are...

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