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Capital Gain Taxes - Buying with an LLC

Started by highend00
over 14 years ago
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I am looking to buy my first investment property in NYC, probably through an LLC, what are the State and locat taxes on capital gain?
Response by e76
over 14 years ago
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wouldn't you try to use the 1031 exemption?

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Response by malthus
over 14 years ago
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If you treat the LLC like a partnership and own 100% the losses and gains will be passed through to you.

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Response by jeremyfg
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Can anyone explain why someone would use an LLC to buy their primary residence in New York? Thanks.

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Response by NWT
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It's useful for very-expensive condos (co-ops don't allow it) that would be reported upon in the press and be noted by stalker fans and irate stockholders. If you're careful about not signing the deed and power of attorney, it's harder to trace it back to you.

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Response by alanhart
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Slightly off-topic: privacy aside, is there any advantage at all to owning investment real estate in an LLC? Do any legal/tax benefits hold up that wouldn't be allowed for an individual owning in his own name?

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Response by gcondo
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Response by NWT
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No tax benefits, as malthus said.

I guess it'd help if the LLC, as owner, got slapped with a big liability judgement or something, so the plaintiff couldn't go after other assets. Unless a court pierced the corporate veil.

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Response by alanhart
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Thanks, gcondo & NWT. I think the corporate veil thing is what I once heard about. For a one-person LLC, I wonder if courts are likely to do that as a matter of course, rarely, or somewhere in between?

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Response by NWT
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I'd say "rarely," just going by the few decisions I've noticed. But then I skip by most of the stuff that isn't RE-, probate-, or scandal-related.

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Response by malthus
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Re piercing the veil, it depends on how well you set it up and follow the rules you and the state establish, but in any event it is an extra step that any potential adversary would have to deal with in going after you.

The real advantage is insulation from liability but the other advantage to buying through an LLC is that you could potentially transfer the asset more quickly by selling the LLC rather than the property, which requires additional regulatory filings. I.e., you sell the llc to your wife to protect it from creditors of other assets.

The downside is cost, especially in NY where you have to file some notice that the company has been formed in newspapers.

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Response by alanhart
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And how about when you, sole owner of the LLC, die, and assets are to be split evenly among named heirs? PITA for executor? Much cost to estate?

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Response by malthus
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Out of my wheelhouse but you own units/interests in an llc which should be treated similarly to shares in a c-corp.

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