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40 East 9th Street #10LM guess how much profit

Started by 300_mercer
about 13 years ago
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Discussion about 40 East 9th Street #10LM
Bought for 1.673 with new floors and good kitchen. Basic Reno without changing anything structural at 250k. Add 50k for trouble and lack of use while renovating. All in 2mm at sept 2009. Sold sept 2011 for 2.7mm.
Response by greensdale
about 13 years ago
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Did the maintenance increase during that period?

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Response by aboutready
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I don't know that that's a compelling example. It seems as though there had been distress at least once during the sales history.

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Response by 300_mercer
about 13 years ago
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Yes. That is correct but does not make the sale invalid. Moreover, I am overestimating the Reno, which I know to be cheaper after having seen the apt before and after. No central ac for example.

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Response by aboutready
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I've got to say its an ugly apartment in an ugly building. But as another downtown fan I'm sure you know the relative and extreme scarcity of larger east village apartments. Some segments over perform, to simply point them out is rather facile.

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Response by 300_mercer
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Sorry, that you do not even know east village boundaries.

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Response by aboutready
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Whatever. Same thing goes for this address.

How long have you lived in NYC and followed real estate?

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Response by greensdale
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Has the "Comps Queen" lost her crown?

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Response by aboutready
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Here's the troll!

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Response by greensdale
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Hi thief!

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Response by columbiacounty
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hfscomm1

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Response by inonada
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Profit, what are you talking about? Bought in Aug 2008 for $2.1M, sold in Sep 2009 for $1.67M. After transaction costs and negative carry, a 100% loss your favorite 33% down payment.

Wait, I didn't think that happened with NYC RE, which is extremely safe, but only with individual stocks which are extremely volatile.

Convenient of you to leave that fact from the sales history out, on a property you cherry-picked no less.

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Response by yikes
about 13 years ago
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thx nada for reinforcing quite well my current preference for financial assets vs re (caveat: i own rntal property lp's for big complexes in UT and CO--and a dumpy house in CT)

and yes, the cherry-pickery seems a touch desperate, given the examples fail

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Response by vic64
about 13 years ago
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Looks like a fair example of investment profit to me for this latest transaction. In the previous transaction, the previous owner seemed to have suffered from financial hardship and went for a fire sale.

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Response by 300_mercer
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Nada, what would have been spx return if you bought in may/june 2008 (contract date) and sold in july/August 2009?

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Response by inonada
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Crappy -- down 18% Jun 30, 2008 to Aug 31, 2009 -- or down 33% May 1, 2008 to Jul 1, 2009.

Either way, though, beats the shit out of the 100% loss here 3x-levered. Hell, it didn't even under-perform the market by much.

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