Hi Friends, My wife and I live in newport, jersey city, NJ. And would like to move to new york city for 1-2 years before we start a family. We are looking for a peaceful area yet close to the bars and resturants. I know it sounds weird. So far here are my conclusions and I would seek some bashing and advice on my conclusions: i) do not stay near times square due to touristy traffic ii) best area... [more]
Hi Friends,
My wife and I live in newport, jersey city, NJ. And would like to move to new york city for 1-2 years before we start a family. We are looking for a peaceful area yet close to the bars and resturants. I know it sounds weird. So far here are my conclusions and I would seek some bashing and advice on my conclusions:
i) do not stay near times square due to touristy traffic
ii) best area is hells kitchen
iii) avoid the apartmetns near lincoln tunnel. we really liked silvertowers but it was so close to lincoln tunnel
iv) upper west side and mid town west are the areas that are less noisy, and near the good bars and resturants.
v) I have no particular reason of not liking the east side and lower east side, I just found an excuse last night that it is close to brooklyn n queens and no matter how gutsy an indian couple can become, they would always fear getting mugged. No offense to any one though. Also, we think the east side is far from the jersey area which we frequently visit. Hence preferred west side.
vi) not looking at downtown, tribeca area because it gets very quiet at night.
vi) not looking upper west side above 65th street as that is so far from midtown where most of our friends live.
So friends, I know I am going to get some bashing as its NYC, but can I please get any advice for an indian 30 something childless couple who want to become NYC wannabees? :)
Another building we liked was sessanta60.com. But the rent for 1 bedroom is $3800. One columbus place the same.
Any reviews for one columbus place?
The archstone's prices skyrocketed so cant even think of living there! Any advice will be greatly appreciated. Thanks
Rajiv
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Response by ab_11218
almost 13 years ago
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ok, so you want to live in manhattan between 20's and 60's on the west side excluding high 30's to high 40's. what is the point of your question?
you shoe horned yourself into a small area and now are looking for a cheap apartment in that area that will give you the luxury that you want. good luck.
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Response by alanhart
almost 13 years ago
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i) correct
ii) for some, but probably not for you. Many area streets and avenues have rush-hour traffic/noise problems similar to Lincoln Tunnel area.
iii) correct ... and Silver Towers is so far west you might as well just stay in NJ
iv) UWS doesn't have good bars or restaurants. Maybe Hell's Kitchen still does.
v) Proximity to Brooklyn and Queens won't get you mugged, but it might get you judged by fellow Indian expats and the like.
vi)Certain downtown neighborhoods offer exactly what you want, but their housing stock probably doesn't (small, old, expensive, walkups).
vii) Virtually all of the UWS is above 65th, and some would argue that UWS doesn't *really* begin until 72nd. Unless you walk everywhere, and even if you do, pushing up to at least 86th Street won't have you feeling distant from midtown friends.
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Response by alanhart
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Anyway, what bars and restaurants in Manhattan do you like? That might be a good starting point.
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Response by uwsbeagle
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Taking the 1 Train from 86 street will have you in Midtown quicker than walking from some shiny new rental on the distant West side and 42nd Street.
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Response by greensdale
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A Pakistani couple, childless and in their 30s, had a similar question 6 months ago. Would you want to live near them or in the runner up location?
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Response by jason10006
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"Taking the 1 Train from 86 street will have you in Midtown quicker than walking from some shiny new rental on the distant West side and 42nd Street."
True, sadly, depending on where you work and how far west. When I lived in HK, my then- roommate and I both had commutes west-east that took longer than when I lived in central Harlem or Fidi, both of which are farther than UWS.
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Response by greensdale
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What you don't want is to be a nomad running from Hells Kitchen to the Financial District to Harlem just because the bedbugs are chasing you.
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Response by nbari1
almost 13 years ago
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Try the Helena on 57th. It's a bit of a walk but you may find it worth it. Green building, great views, great staff and Durst & Fetner is a respected landlord.
I've had many clients live in the building and love it.
Good luck!
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Response by alanhart
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Will you cook cheeseburgers in YOUR apartment? Very smellier.
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Response by greensdale
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>or nomad
Racist
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Response by greensdale
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Gramercy is tiny.
The affordable area is just 3rd avenue or 2nd avenue, which is basically just the boulevard between Stuy Town and the Midtown Tunnel, with a side of hospitals.
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Response by RClavi
almost 13 years ago
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west 50's (hell's kitchen) all the way... if budget allows..
close to Central Park, all trains, bars/eats/shopping/shows, yet far enough from Times Sq prime to deal with tourists daily and Port Authority on 40's/30's which though still HK, feel much *grimier* (to some's old NY nostalgic delight) than more established 'neighborhoody' west 50's...
quick car drive to NJ as you're so close to west side highway, and cheaper parking monthly options than the east side (though can't be said for rent in general).
the only issue really is budget, as prime Hells Kitchen (west 50's even west of 10th, as opposed to less desirable 40's/30's) has gotten quite costly due to having BOTH midtown convenience while still holding on to a 'neighborly feel' (insert joke) which 40's/30's still lack due to Port Authority congestion.. but if you keep digging you will find that one landlord who doesn't know what a gem (location-wise at least) he has..
give up the *shiny* FAR west 40's/30's forever walking places, and go for something much less shiny on west 50's.. location trumps all
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>but if you keep digging you will find that one landlord who doesn't know what a gem (location-wise at least) he has..
That naïve landlord probably doesn't know to remove lead paint, or to notify you of the long-term crazy neighbor, or alert you to the cooking smell from the burrito place next door.
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Response by walpurgis
almost 13 years ago
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Many tough choices out there - but here are 3 alternatives, still of the radar:
1) Broadway Alley, which runs between East 26th & 27th Streets, just west of 3rd Avenue. Very quaint, straddling the Gramercy, Flatiron & Kips Bay, within a minutes walk to the "Curry Hill" stretch of Lexington Avenue. If you want to "narrow" your choices - well, this would be it.
2) Tunnel Exit & Entrance Streets, running from 34th to 40th Streets between 1st, 2nd & 3rd Avenues, smack dab in the middle of Kips Bay; transportation access is literally under your nose - along with the fumes.
3) Dyre Avenue, a short, one block feeder street into the Lincoln Tunnel; see # 2 above.
Hope this helps. Best of Luck!
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Response by pencap75
almost 13 years ago
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Not wanting to live in the east side because of its proximity to Brooklyn/Quees=high crime?
Thats a good one. Thanke for the morning lols.
ok, so you want to live in manhattan between 20's and 60's on the west side excluding high 30's to high 40's. what is the point of your question?
you shoe horned yourself into a small area and now are looking for a cheap apartment in that area that will give you the luxury that you want. good luck.
i) correct
ii) for some, but probably not for you. Many area streets and avenues have rush-hour traffic/noise problems similar to Lincoln Tunnel area.
iii) correct ... and Silver Towers is so far west you might as well just stay in NJ
iv) UWS doesn't have good bars or restaurants. Maybe Hell's Kitchen still does.
v) Proximity to Brooklyn and Queens won't get you mugged, but it might get you judged by fellow Indian expats and the like.
vi)Certain downtown neighborhoods offer exactly what you want, but their housing stock probably doesn't (small, old, expensive, walkups).
vii) Virtually all of the UWS is above 65th, and some would argue that UWS doesn't *really* begin until 72nd. Unless you walk everywhere, and even if you do, pushing up to at least 86th Street won't have you feeling distant from midtown friends.
Anyway, what bars and restaurants in Manhattan do you like? That might be a good starting point.
Taking the 1 Train from 86 street will have you in Midtown quicker than walking from some shiny new rental on the distant West side and 42nd Street.
A Pakistani couple, childless and in their 30s, had a similar question 6 months ago. Would you want to live near them or in the runner up location?
"Taking the 1 Train from 86 street will have you in Midtown quicker than walking from some shiny new rental on the distant West side and 42nd Street."
True, sadly, depending on where you work and how far west. When I lived in HK, my then- roommate and I both had commutes west-east that took longer than when I lived in central Harlem or Fidi, both of which are farther than UWS.
What you don't want is to be a nomad running from Hells Kitchen to the Financial District to Harlem just because the bedbugs are chasing you.
Try the Helena on 57th. It's a bit of a walk but you may find it worth it. Green building, great views, great staff and Durst & Fetner is a respected landlord.
I've had many clients live in the building and love it.
Good luck!
Will you cook cheeseburgers in YOUR apartment? Very smellier.
>or nomad
Racist
Gramercy is tiny.
The affordable area is just 3rd avenue or 2nd avenue, which is basically just the boulevard between Stuy Town and the Midtown Tunnel, with a side of hospitals.
west 50's (hell's kitchen) all the way... if budget allows..
close to Central Park, all trains, bars/eats/shopping/shows, yet far enough from Times Sq prime to deal with tourists daily and Port Authority on 40's/30's which though still HK, feel much *grimier* (to some's old NY nostalgic delight) than more established 'neighborhoody' west 50's...
quick car drive to NJ as you're so close to west side highway, and cheaper parking monthly options than the east side (though can't be said for rent in general).
the only issue really is budget, as prime Hells Kitchen (west 50's even west of 10th, as opposed to less desirable 40's/30's) has gotten quite costly due to having BOTH midtown convenience while still holding on to a 'neighborly feel' (insert joke) which 40's/30's still lack due to Port Authority congestion.. but if you keep digging you will find that one landlord who doesn't know what a gem (location-wise at least) he has..
give up the *shiny* FAR west 40's/30's forever walking places, and go for something much less shiny on west 50's.. location trumps all
>but if you keep digging you will find that one landlord who doesn't know what a gem (location-wise at least) he has..
That naïve landlord probably doesn't know to remove lead paint, or to notify you of the long-term crazy neighbor, or alert you to the cooking smell from the burrito place next door.
Many tough choices out there - but here are 3 alternatives, still of the radar:
1) Broadway Alley, which runs between East 26th & 27th Streets, just west of 3rd Avenue. Very quaint, straddling the Gramercy, Flatiron & Kips Bay, within a minutes walk to the "Curry Hill" stretch of Lexington Avenue. If you want to "narrow" your choices - well, this would be it.
2) Tunnel Exit & Entrance Streets, running from 34th to 40th Streets between 1st, 2nd & 3rd Avenues, smack dab in the middle of Kips Bay; transportation access is literally under your nose - along with the fumes.
3) Dyre Avenue, a short, one block feeder street into the Lincoln Tunnel; see # 2 above.
Hope this helps. Best of Luck!
Not wanting to live in the east side because of its proximity to Brooklyn/Quees=high crime?
Thats a good one. Thanke for the morning lols.