Oppressive Security around WTC?

3k people killed. How many otherwise equals overkill ?

What's particularly stupid about it is that had it been in place on September 11, 2001, it still wouldn't have stopped a damn thing, since the "attacks" came from INSIDE the buildings ... and from AIRPLANES in the SKY.

But none of these measures - ambitious as they all are - will be of any use if they decide to fly a building into a plane...

Well I guess NYCMatt and Walpurgis that there is no need for security after all.

No, there isnt. It's just a building, like thousands of others in NYC. Just say NO to the ever-expanding police state.

Go Team RE!

My (usual) lame attempts at joking aside, of course I understand the need for extremely high security there. How could I NOT?

The resultant atmosphere created by it will be the big turn-off.

But we'll all have to adjust & get used to it - probably no different than visiting a military installation.

Speaking of which, I attended two events at Fort Hamilton earlier this year, as the guest of a member of the DHS.

As was explained to me, a list of ALL guests had to submitted well in advance of the event date.

I totally understood, & had no problem with this whatsoever.

I mean really now: What would they uncover? My ridiculous SE postings?

Hmmm...come to think of it, I guess that could've been grounds for not letting me in...

It's crazy over kill.
Going to stop that mosquito with this "titanium" chain linked fence which is Internet ready.
Just a result of our heightened sense of emotive group think coupled with a military/security industrial complex deploying fear mongering influence to divert national resources into to the pockets of their greedy share holders. I say this with all due respect.
What's the choices?
Here ya go mate...
Tear it all down
All of it.
We change the plan completely
I'm not saying no security, just pre 9 11 size security
We wake up and play a zone defense where each and every one of us covers the zone we're in at the moment.
You're at the Mall, keep your eyes peeled, you got a cell phone, see something? Make a call, take a picture, post it on Facebook, twitter...
You get the idea. Airport? End that Dog and Pony show. Let's just make up our minds that if someone wants to take over a plane they can. Now imagine 250 airline passengers waving box cutters at the perpetrators. See where I'm going?
ZONE DEFENCE
Everyone has to play, everyone needs a box cutter, there will be acceptable losses associated with this plan
The divided would be gigantic. Drop it into education and foreign aid and sit back and watch the world become a better place.
As for this tower, I would put a fortress around it. In the jihad universe carnival this is still the brass ring you trade for immortality.
For every thing else
Zone Defence

falcogold1, pre-2001 security? How about pre-1993 security?

>see something? Make a call, take a picture, post it on Facebook, twitter...

I just walked by a Starbucks, a guy was sitting in view of the window wearing big headphones, his computer facing him and visible to everyone who walked by on the street, full hard core porn for NYC to see.

>Everyone has to play, everyone needs a box cutter, there will be acceptable losses associated with this plan

Should everyone get a belly gun too? To protect against the hoodlum games playing "knockout": http://trutube.tv/video/6178/Savage-attacks-White-Woman-Brings-knock-out-game-to-London- or the guy who was killed in Union Square?

http://streeteasy.com/nyc/talk/discussion/22160-mosque-near-ground-zero?page=12

My point exactly
Thank you.
What plan other than a unified approach to safe streets could there be.
Harsh public punishment for those who commit outrageous anti-social acts

Most of the security measures at the new World Trade Center involve vehicles movement restrictions. Pedestrians virtually have unrestricted access at most common areas. Why do they call that excessive?
Since when vehicular movement is a "right". It was always a privilege.

I agree, Vic. If they were making ordinary pedestrians walk through metal detectors and carry papers I might feel differently.

Security is required to get the tenants. There's a lot invested in the RE and buildings. China isn't going to take space there unless they are protected. Same for the beautiful people at Conde Nast. And of course the Port Authority.
But seriously, visit the New York Stock Exchange, visit Goldman Sachs, why would the WTC have less security?

But what about the revolving beacon in the image of Bin Laden's head slated to be installed atop
the spire? How will that be protected when / if it is?