NYC stores to see/buy appliances

I found PC Richards to be a decent place to see most appliances. They have Wolf and at least 1-2 subzero fridges. However there are better places if you go out into queens (Len's Appliances) or NJ.

As for wolf in your kitchen. I can't speak to the electrical part, but for any powerful range, you are going to want a kitchen that is not too closed in, and at least an over the range hood or microwave to vent things. (People might say that the OTR microwave is weak and that recirculating fans are useless, but with a powerful range it is going to be better than having a cabinet above the stove. I have a Wolf and it's quite powerful.

Gringer and Sons is the best - 2nd Ave and 2nd St in the East Village

Thanks, sp21. The kitchen is large and has two windows so I'm not too concerned about the ventilation. I would likely not be able to install a hood but was planning to keep the space above the range free from any cabinets or microwave for more ventilation.

Drimmers in Brooklyn. Very good experiences with appointment and installation. Went with them based on reccomendations as well.

Manhattan Center for Kitchen and Bath. http://mckb.com/appliances.htm

They had subzero/wolf, Bluestar, Liebherr last time I was looking (2 yrs ago). In the end, we bought from AJ Madison (in Brooklyn) because they gave us a good deal (my tip: order via phone and ask the sales person to give you his best offer).

Agree with buying by phone, much simpler. Going into the store an viewing samples is over-rated. On the internet you can see all the photos and specs.

I don't abide by what anyone says. Appliance dealers throughout NYC are a MISERABLE lot if anything goes wrong. You will spend hours and hours and many dozens of phone calls and missed time from work trying to get any real problem resolved. Doesn't matter which store you deal with. If all goes smoothly, then they are all fine. If there's a glitch, you will experience aggravation at a level that makes you want to actually hurt someone or blow something up. Sorry, but there is just no way I've ever found around this. You just pray that everything arrives undamaged and with all its parts on or about the time the store says it will. Of the renovations I have done, the appliances caused me more grief than any other part. This is why, in the future, I will never again save a few hundred dollars by purchasing the appliances myself. From now on, I will make it part of the GC's job (and headache). My time is worth more. I got almost everything right by excruciating planning and attention to detail in my renovations, but this is a lesson I learned.

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>If there's a glitch, you will experience aggravation at a level that makes you want to actually hurt someone or blow something up.

Hmmm

Kyle, I had a small glitch, but just picked up the phone, called Drimmers and they fixed it. No drama, no head-ache, very good service.

huntersburg: Oh, please.
I don't believe that kyle would "want to actually hurt" an appliance salesman or blow an appliance up.
He probably would just do some extra gardening at a frenetic pace.

kyle: Did you misplace the word "actually"? :
"If there's a glitch, you will actually experience aggravation at a level that makes you want to..."

Riversider: But, you don't have a garden (not all glitches being equal).

Truth , my glitch was minor, but sometimes it's not the glitch, but how we react to them that makes them huge issues.

Truth - these could be signs of mental illness that could be dangerous to others. Frustration expressing itself through anger and threats turns to planning and preparation and possibly ultimately dangerous action. Of course, it could be nothing other than big dramatic talk by someone easily irritated by life's normal trials and tribulations: Kyle's expressed that he has had trouble crossing 14th street even though he's chosen to live in New York City. It's hard to know in advance how far someone will go down the path starting at normal frustration to action, and in fact just big man talk of action alone may actually be all the pressure release that is needed. In another example, apt23 told us on streeteasy that she called the police on her husband and falsely reported that he was about to commit a violent crime. Her husband probably didn't know that just because she was a constant shrew and that she was frustrated at the neighbor across the street that she would then go on to do what she did, using her husband as the patsy.

Take Riversider, he has no issues with the appliances except when it is a cable box installed by Verizon in which case he deals with the issue just by using a Level 3 Retention Specialist and all is solved: http://streeteasy.com/nyc/talk/discussion/37318-shady-verizon

Riversider: However, if you had a major glitch you could react to the aggravation by doing frenetic gardening
(if you had a garden). "Hours and hours and many dozens of phone calls and missed time from work" would send you straight to your garden, the next available weekend.

huntersburg: that description sounds like it's of a person who is about ready to do nothing.

In the case of apt23: she posted a comment on streeteasy, describing how she called the NYPD to report that her husband had a gun.

Riversider was advised on a streeteasy discussion (posted by what's-her-name) to call Verizon and demand to speak to "a Level 3 Retention Specialist", although he probably just called Verizon and informed them that he is taking his business elsewhere (in which case: the Verizon customer service rep would apologize and then transfer him to a supervisor. Riversider wouldn't need to ask to be transferred and would be able to negotiate a better rate).

Having a garden is always a better way to deal with the daily frustrations of life.
(But only if it doesn't lead to wanting to have a better garden, a bigger and better garden,with the expectation that it would lead to a better life. "Then, it doesn't").

Come to think of it, I do have a daylily garden maturing very nicely that I planted around the time Gringer came into my life.

Prior to buying we had looked at Wolf and Subzero at both PC Richards (where the salesmen were pleasant but had little product knowledge) and also at the Wolf/Subzero showroom at the A&D Building on East 58th Street. There was no problem with us just walking into the showroom on our own, with no contractor or architect with us and the folks there were very helpful with info, answers to questions, and lots of brochures and literature. They did not advocate for any particular retailer.

But when it came to buying we bought from Curto's in Yonkers. Did the entire transaction by telephone and had a perfect experience -- price, delivery, and service.

As for compatibility issues, we asked the showroom folks for the gas stove requirements, reviewed these with our superintendent, and then knew what to buy. While we wanted dual fuel, we had to go all-gas on the Wolf. We live in a pre-war that has nothing close to the electrical power needed for a dual fuel (the showroom, which is experienced with putting their products into NYC apartments, predicted that would be the case after asking the age of our building). I don't think this was unique to the Wolf and that we would have had the same issue with any dual fuel range.

Good luck.

Just be careful about the Wolf. I am remodeling my kitchen and was told it was not a great stove for my kitchen because it doesn't have a window and I cannot install the required vent. Wolf produces a great deal of heat.

Also, a lot of friends have been dumping their Subzero refrigerators due to repair issues.

We're buying a French door Liebherr and one of the new GE ranges with the tri-burners found on the Wolf.