Combining 2 adjacent units
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Hi, I am looking to combine my 1 bedroom with the studio next door on the Upper East Side, however I am not quite sure where to start. We have already received a verbal OK from the board and management that this can be done and I do find comfort in knowing that there is 1 combination in the exact same apartment lines being done at the moment as well as one having been done about 2 years ago. We do... [more]
Hi, I am looking to combine my 1 bedroom with the studio next door on the Upper East Side, however I am not quite sure where to start. We have already received a verbal OK from the board and management that this can be done and I do find comfort in knowing that there is 1 combination in the exact same apartment lines being done at the moment as well as one having been done about 2 years ago. We do like the layout of the apartment that was done 2 years ago and would like to do something similar. I’ve spoken to building management and from the 2 other tenants that have combined in the 2 apartment lines, it was a simple addition of their 2 maintenances, so I think I’m ok from that perspective. I understand that written approval is needed and that is something we will be seeking soon, but my question is.. how does one find a good reliable contractor? Do I need an architect or an engineer or both? Also, how much should I expect to pay for an architect/engineer? What is an expediter? Also my bank is telling me to get a bare minimum contractors quote to combine the 2 places and hold 1.5 times that in escrow until the renovation is completed. Is this normal? Also, I’m kind of curious as to what people might think this renovation costs: - Combining 1 bedroom (750 sq feet) with a studio that’s (550 sq ft). Turn the studio into the master bedroom and create master bath. - The kitchens are right next to each other so I would want to combine these to create a 13’ by 9’ ft kitchen. No new appliances as the ones I have now in my current apartment are very new, but obviously new cabinets, tiling, countertops. - I’d probably want to move a wall to extend my living room, and make the bedroom a little smaller. - Take the bathroom in the studio, make it bigger by knocking down a little dressing area. Re-tile the bathroom, new toilet, double sinks, tub - Given that the floors in the studio are in bad shape, I’d probably have to do all the floors through the apartment. (1200 sq ft) - Also would want to create pocket doors to use the bedroom in the 1 bedroom as a baby’s room/office/den. Also by having pocket doors, it could potentially extend the living area. Not sure if this is a cost effective solution as far as re-sale, so any input on this particular ask would be much appreciated. Can anyone recommend a good reliable contractor and architect? It is very important to me that I do this the right way b/c I don’t want to deal with any headaches later so any input from you guys would be much appreciated. [less]
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hey there- if your still looking lets touch base - I'm an arch and can take care of the plans /building etc- i also have ties to an excellent GC/interior GC -
let me know and we can touch base on this.
best
Enlarge the bathroom could be an issue with the board but not always. I have couple reliable contractors who will be happy to look at your place. Email me generative.arch@gmail.com if you want to meet them.
impossible to answer your how much will renovations cost however to answer your other question
1/ get a letter in writing from the co-op board saying that in principal they have approved previous combinations in the past and would intend to this one dependent on dob approvals.
2/ check with the bank if they do combinations (chase does at the moment...citi doesn't (or at least didn't 6 months ago.......4 years ago citi did and chase didn't....go figure).
3/ as long as the bank says yes then contact an architect (ask for a split fee eg for proposal portion and then if you move forward to completion portion) ask for proposed budget etc and decide if you want to move forward.
4/ Once the architect says yes to your ideas then get 3 contractors to bid and yes you need to get two sets of bids from them 1/ for the "breakthrough" and 2/ for the actual complete job), the reason for getting two bids is yes the bank will want an escrow to be held until you complete the job (eg we gave the bank a bid of $15k (remove kitchen/build stairs) but the entire project ended up costing us over $80k by the time you add in everything.
5/ once the bank confirms your proposal then make a bid/sign the contract/submit the deposit for the apartment, valuation comes then underwriting process, then closing.
6/ Once closed, architect draws up plans, board approves.
7/ plans submitted to dob
8/ plans approved, building construction can start......your life of hell begins.
9/eventually hell finishes, architect files for dob to close job, appraiser checks the work - bank returns escrow.
10/ one of two things happen, you are totally happy with your combination and wonder why more people don't do it.......or you wish you ever started, it didn't give you that much extra space and you now pay twice the maintenance (and your neighbours hate you for 4 months of major renovations) and you realize you should have just bought somewhere else for all the money it cost you.
Have fun :)
(and yes we've done a combination before (twice)....suckers for punishment.