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Co-op vs Condo - No Board Approvals

Started by Dafni
over 8 years ago
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Member since: Jan 2017
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Co-op rentals,,No Board...they are asking for $1,500 up front to Super for damages in moving in and also $1,500 for damages moving out. They say this is refundable. My god, for anyone paying these ridiculous rents, what do they think will happen to their buildings!! We're talking about a few pieces of furniture,,,period! Am I better off with a Condo Sponsor apt. than the Co-op No Board unit? Thanks...it has been a grueling ...nightmare! What's happened to the City...am a Native N.Yorker whose been away for some years and returning!! Love this site.
Response by tonyhoward255
over 8 years ago
Posts: 35
Member since: Apr 2016

Sponsor unit considerations aside, a co-op is a very different from a condo in NYC. Would suggest reading this overview before you make the decision as to sponsor unit co-op, regular co-op, condo, etc.: https://www.hauseit.com/co-op-vs-condo-nyc/

There's no doubt that if you own a co-op it's much more difficult to rent than a traditional condo. This will cost you money in terms of higher vacancy due to a predictably longer marketing period. Renters are definitely turned off by the onerous board application and hefty fees.

However, in theory if you are buying a co-op it should be because you plan on living in NYC for the foreseeable future (so no subletting is necessary).

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Response by JR1
over 8 years ago
Posts: 184
Member since: Jun 2015

Dafni, have you considered just purchasing to make your life easier?

And yes, that's why most rental agents I know prefer not to show co-op rentals to their clients. Enormously more work vs a standard rental building. Putting together a co-op board package for a sublet? Please!

For those who don't like to read, here's a simple illustration explaining the differences between a condo and a co-op: http://www.ucollectinfographics.com/co-op-vs-condo-properties-nyc-hauseit/

You should definitely consider just buying, probably a condo since you seem to want to avoid the hassle of a co-op board..

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Response by sf212
over 8 years ago
Posts: 24
Member since: Sep 2016

What does sound like a nightmare is that you're going through a co-op purchase application for a RENTAL ... lol ... that is just sad. Who is the poor agent if you have one working with you on this?

What kind of price range are you looking at, just curious? It must have been a pretty pricey condo or co-op for your broker to agree to go through a board package for you...for a rental...

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Response by RPow
over 8 years ago
Posts: 9
Member since: Jul 2016

This is why my agent Emily steered me away from co-ops and condos when I was in the market to rent. No way I'm going through a board package just to rent a place for a year. They wanted to know all the LLCs I'm affiliated with and any secret society memberships. You've got to be kidding right?

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Response by 30yrs_RE_20_in_REO
over 8 years ago
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You'd be surprised how many condos are making their rental processes look like coops.

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Response by JR1
over 8 years ago
Posts: 184
Member since: Jun 2015

30yrs_RE_20_in_REO tell me about it. It's self destructive behavior esp as we have more supply on the market. Why make it harder for the owners?

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Response by 30yrs_RE_20_in_REO
over 8 years ago
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Some condos are now charging a processing fee for renewing a lease with an existing tenant. I'm not sure how prevalent this is - anyone have any idea?

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Response by front_porch
over 8 years ago
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I believe the Vendome charges a couple hundred for renewal processing, but I think that they have for awhile.

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Response by truthskr10
over 8 years ago
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Member since: Jul 2009

All it takes is to have lived next to one sh!tty neighbor to appreciate co-op rental rules. :)

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