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Open House Reports 8/4/08

Started by West81st
almost 18 years ago
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Visited two showings this evening. All quiet on the (Upper) Western front. 65 Central Par West #3D $2,585,000 + 2% flip by buyer; mt. $2728 Coop, 2 beds 2 baths; No sq.ft. stated Traffic: I was the fourth visitor, near the end of the open house. On paper, the attraction of this listing is direct park views from the living room and bedrooms, In person, the views are a bit of a letdown: mostly,... [more]
Response by NYRENewbie
almost 18 years ago
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I just love your reviews! You are like the restaurant critic of open houses. Someone should be paying you for this. I would definitely subscribe. Thanks!

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Response by MMAfia
almost 18 years ago
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Agreed- West, you truly do contribute positively to this board. I for one always read your open house reports. Keep up the good word.

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Response by EAO
almost 18 years ago
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I third that comment!

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Response by bela
almost 18 years ago
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i look fwd to west81st reviews evey week. thank you

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Response by West81st
almost 18 years ago
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Thanks, all. My pleasure.

By the way, one of the brokers on the site (barskaya, I think) recently pointed out that summer open houses are often aimed less at selling apartments and more at showing the seller that the broker is trying. That might be especially true this year, with a lot of listings growing stale and brokers worrying that their exclusives will expire.

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Response by lookingforhome
almost 18 years ago
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"Vegas French Provincial" - possibly some of the best real estate writing ever.

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Response by lowery
almost 18 years ago
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I agree - it is the style with which every detail is delivered which makes it all enjoyable to read. I don't think these reviews sell many of the apts, though ;)

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Response by curiously
almost 18 years ago
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West 81st....if were going to buy an apartment and were looking for best value...would you buy 65 CPW #3D for $2.5MM or 15 West 84th 2A(from a previous open house report)for $2.5MM?

I am in that range and want to buy something in the next month or so....any others out there you would reccomend seeing.....I am looking for a 3 bedroom between 65th and 86th on a Park Block

Do you see this market dropping further in price or staying flat as inventory still seems to be low?

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Response by West81st
almost 18 years ago
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Curiously: Do you mean an all-in cost of $2.5MM or just the purchase price? At 65 CPW, you're looking at a fairly costly renovation. There's also a flip tax and the maintenance is high.

For us, 15 West 84th would be a turnkey no-brainer. The layout is ideal for our lifestyle, the maintenance is reasonable and it's a block from PS9. We wouldn't even have to repaint the pink kids' wing (we have daughters). We even have friends upstairs. The only real negative is that the building is charmless.

Does the "park" have to be Central Park? If not, you might consider...
http://www.streeteasy.com/nyc/sale/211311-coop-110-riverside-drive-upper-west-side-manhattan.
I don't like the reconfigured floorplan, but it's relatively easy to fix and I love the building.

As for the direction of the market, I'm not really a player in that game. Seriously motivated sellers are already going down to the level of 2005 comps, where they seem to be finding buyers. My guess is an ongoing impasse and slow downward drift, with lots of exclusives expiring unsold because most sellers don't need to sell and most buyers don't want to pay 2006-2007 prices. That is purely a guess, and at the end of the day, it doesn't matter where the market as a whole winds up. What matters is the price of the apartment you really want.

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Response by curiously
almost 18 years ago
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yes, I mean just purchase price. I prefer CPW, but that one on Riverside looks nice but needs some work.
Thanks

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Response by drdrd
almost 18 years ago
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Yes, West81st, you're class with a capital K. Always a good read & great insight!

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