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Started by catalanmc
about 6 years ago
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Help please! Any thought of home depot or My home design remodeling for gut renovation? Thanks!
Response by Aaron2
about 6 years ago
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My kitchen (typical small 1960s NY enclosed space) cabinets came from HD's 'design service'. (I was also working with an architect who was specifying other materials. Very happy with the designer, who had good ideas and made herself available for meetings, and with the final product (provided by whomever HD uses to supply cabinets, but installed by my contractor)

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Response by KeithBurkhardt
about 6 years ago
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We've had these cabinets for about 2 years now, very happy with the quality and price. They can be ordered by your contractor or designer.

https://www.jkcabinetry.com/?gclid=Cj0KCQjww7HsBRDkARIsAARsIT5BAsmJ87FwJBBUbJc-0GlPa0AXOddZ5dGgd1FbpyUNakBl9fJfOI8aAnj8EALw_wcB

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Response by catalanmc
about 6 years ago
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sorry, I didn't make it clear, My question is home depot contractor or My home design remodeling contractor for gut bathroom and kitchen renovations? thanks for any suggestions!

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Response by Studio4Sale
about 6 years ago
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Our coop requires laticrete waterproofing below tiles on the bath walls and on the floor.
Also, a licensed plumber is a must.

No shortage of contractors.
Example
Block Renovation
45 Main St, Suite 202
Brooklyn, NY

blockrenovation.com

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Response by Primer05
about 6 years ago
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Catalanmc,

From what I have heard over the years is that it is hit or miss on both of those companies. They both sub out their work to other companies so it depends on who you get.

You are better off reaching out to friends that have done renovations and find someone who was happy with their contractor.

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Response by Emily
over 5 years ago
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One way or another you can’t avoid the mess. I ordered the kitchen at kitchencabinetsdeal.com and did not even think about how to somehow make the kitchen suitable for the child. The designer herself took these points into account. I can give one piece of advice - use non-breaking dishes.

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Response by front_porch
over 5 years ago
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LOL, Emily. Sounds like the child is of the age where you could save on demo.

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Response by 30yrs_RE_20_in_REO
over 5 years ago
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As someone who cooks almost every meal myself I have to say I'm shocked at the number of newly renovated kitchens that I see where the first thoughts that go through my mind are "I can't believe anyone got paid to design that" and "no one is ever using that kitchen to cook."

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Response by 300_mercer
over 5 years ago
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30, what are your pet peeves about newly renovated kitchens you mention?

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Response by 30yrs_RE_20_in_REO
over 5 years ago
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I'll give you 3 (of many)
- totally ignoring the triangle
- appliances next to each other
- stoves without counters on both sides of them.

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Response by 30yrs_RE_20_in_REO
over 5 years ago
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And if you really want to talk "pet peeve" pot fillers over stoves in residential kitchens.

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Response by 300_mercer
over 5 years ago
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Ha. When I first saw a pot filler, I thought it was to put out fire. This is clearly to justify ultra-luxury $4k plus pricing.

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Response by 300_mercer
over 5 years ago
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And whatever happened to let the water run for 10-20 seconds before you use it for cooking / drinking!!

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Response by Primer05
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Response by Mercer,

Keep in mind, this is not the suburbs, we cannot move gas lines or risers to design a kitchen in a way that it should be. In many instances the gas line gets in the way so we need to keep the appliances where they were originally intended.

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Response by Primer05
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Response by Mercer,

Keep in mind, this is not the suburbs, we cannot move gas lines or risers to design a kitchen in a way that it should be. In many instances the gas line gets in the way so we need to keep the appliances where they were originally intended.

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Response by 300_mercer
over 5 years ago
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Indeed. Moving gas line is a major pain. I had to do it recently and still being kicked around between Coned and DOB including requirement to change the gas meter.

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Response by showitthefro
over 5 years ago
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Sometimes you can't get the triangle and have to have the appliances next to each other e.g. one wall kitchens. Can you forgive that 30yrs?

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Response by 300_mercer
over 5 years ago
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You can have fridge, stove and sink side by side. As long as there is space on each side of the stove (say 24 inches) and it is in the middle, it still works pretty well - perhaps it will fit into the definition of a triangle. Stove without counter on either side is almost impossible to work with. Fortunately I do not remember seeing one in any decent sized apartment.

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Response by 30yrs_RE_20_in_REO
over 5 years ago
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Do you remember a while back there was this discussion we had here about a Hell's Kitchen 3 BR condo with this large and oddly placed half bath (I think there was a full bath right off the entry of the unit and then this half bath was in the hall between bedrooms). If I remember correctly every stove in that building (unfortunately I can't remember the address) is up against a wall on one side. Also look at 250 West 89th St, 22 West 15th St and other new construction condos of that vintage.

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Response by 30yrs_RE_20_in_REO
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Here's a decision I'm not sure I understand:
https://streeteasy.com/building/375-riverside-drive-new_york/4e

They spent how much money on a high end toilet? 6 burner stove? Range hood? Etc? But didn't spring for a built-in refrigerator in a kitchen design which looks like it could have benefited from one. (In addition to that relatively narrow counter to the right of the stove).

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Response by 300_mercer
over 5 years ago
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I remember the Hell’s Kitchen discussion. That was very odd layout. For riverside, it is a relative low priced apartment. So they probably had limited budget and wanted a big volume fridge (pastry chef owner). So they saved 6-7k on the fridge (sub zero 10k vs 2-3k for good brand counter depth).

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Response by 300_mercer
over 5 years ago
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This one you pointed out is odd for sure.

https://streeteasy.com/sale/1396677

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Response by 30yrs_RE_20_in_REO
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Response by Aaron2
over 5 years ago
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Kitchens for those who only reheat. The triangle isn't there, and the co-location of the range and fridge will provoke fights if there's more than one person working at a time.

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Response by stache
over 5 years ago
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I'm questioning the double sink and very little closet space, plus pollution from traffic.

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Response by 300_mercer
over 5 years ago
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189 Bridge is only 800 sq ft 2 bed. So you expect a lot of compromises.

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Response by Aaron2
over 5 years ago
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But the broker babble claims it's a "large" 2BR. Might have been better if they'd skipped the 2nd BA, and put the kitchen in that spot. I like that the provided floorplan says "all measurements are approximate", and then doesn't provide any. The ultimate approximation.

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Response by 300_mercer
over 5 years ago
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People want 2/2 under a $1mm.

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Response by 30yrs_RE_20_in_REO
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You've got probably $15k worth of range/hood/refrigerator practically on top of each other.

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Response by 30yrs_RE_20_in_REO
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Who designed this kitchen for a $6 million apartment?
https://streeteasy.com/building/1125-park-avenue-new_york/15b

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Response by Aaron2
over 5 years ago
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I don't hate the layout of 15B, but it's only saved because there's a pantry space: All the dishes are stored there, they come from the dining room, go into the sink/dishwasher there, and back onto the shelves. Pots & pans and other cooking gear go into the dishwasher in the 'main' kitchen. There's enough else that's right about that overall layout that I could live with the kitchen as is.

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Response by ph41
over 5 years ago
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It’s just very ugly and cheap looking. No problem with the layout.

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Response by George
over 5 years ago
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Who says it's a $6m apt? Other than the seller?

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