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Suburban cap rates

Started by George
about 5 years ago
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Question for the investors... If you bought a mid-range house in a nice suburb (say, Greenwich, Alpine, or Morristown) with a tenant in place in an almost-new two year lease, what sort of levered cap rate might you expect, assuming ordinary financing and no capital appreciation? We were seeing capnrates in the low single digits in the city for multifamilies and around 0 (or worse) for Manhattan condos pre-covid. Is this what the suburbs are trading at? Asking for a friend.
Response by 300_mercer
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Levered cap rate = cash on cash return with 25 percent down 30y loan as primary residence?

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Response by George
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Can prob get a 30 year loan at 2.5%. On my world, cap rate = rent minus interest expense minus costs (landscaping, property manager, repairs, taxes, vacancy, broker commission, snow removal, etc) divided by cash invested (down payment plus closing costs)

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Response by George
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*In my world

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Response by George
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Ps, I realize that what I'm really talking about is levered cash-on-cash yield, but I can "translate" by backing out interest expense and cash vs total property value.

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Response by inonada
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George, you still need to quote a down payment percentage I think.

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Response by 300_mercer
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And allowance for major repairs which occur every few years. Why not just use standard definition of cap rate which has a depreciation allowance?

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Response by George
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Let's say 25% down, with 1.5% of property value each year for depreciation.

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Response by 300_mercer
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George look at INVH to see what you can really make. $18bn of assets. Net income $200mm range. EBITDA $1bn range. Depreciation is accounting depreciation rather than Capex reserve.

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Response by 300_mercer
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I have not delved into details but one needs to add back some accounting depreciation to get current market value of assets. So probably $25bn property making $1bn. 4% cap rate.

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