When I purchased my current co-op unit, I was told no washer/dryers could be installed although it is not expressly mentioned in the (extremely old) house rules. I always get the current sales mailer cards from real estate agents in my mail and I like to look them up online and see what ideas people have had for renovations etc. Today I found something VERY unexpected though. A larger unit with... [more]
When I purchased my current co-op unit, I was told no washer/dryers could be installed although it is not expressly mentioned in the (extremely old) house rules.
I always get the current sales mailer cards from real estate agents in my mail and I like to look them up online and see what ideas people have had for renovations etc. Today I found something VERY unexpected though. A larger unit with relatively new washer/dryer installed. So, i'm annoyed/optimistic/confused/jealous/hopeful. I have never seen this before from checking out units in my building though and most are nowhere near the size of this one.
So my question...is knowing this any kind of indication that they will more likely allow washer/dryers now? Is knowing about this other unit and/or the other unit existing something I can use to my benefit when submitting plans to include a washer/dryer? Or was the other unit more likely just a seldom exception because of the large size and needing to attract wealthier owners (can they do that?).
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Response by UptownSpecialist
over 3 years ago
Posts: 139
Member since: May 2013
Washing machines require proper plumbing and ventilation (often to the roof) to minimize the pressure on the drain stack. I am not an engineer- so I can't comment in full- but it truly might be a case of a signficantly larger apartment might be a combination in in lieu of having an additional kitchen connection or bathroom connection not in use allowed for this washing machine to be installed. Non venting dryers are usually not that much of an issue- though you might need to upgrade the electric in the apartment or even adding capacity to the floor in order to accommodate a dryer.
You should ask your managing agent about this- and take it from there.
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Response by multicityresident
over 3 years ago
Posts: 2421
Member since: Jan 2009
I raise the likelihood thar it was an illegal renovation. Illegal renovations are rampant and not infrequently seen in the apartments of board members themselves. This is an area where those affected (other residents in the building) have no practical recourse unless they get on the board themselves and make cleaning up illegal renovations a priority.
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Response by steve123
over 3 years ago
Posts: 895
Member since: Feb 2009
@MCR - I would argue breaking the rules (rather than changing ones they dislike) is the main motivators of half the people on boards.
My building rejected some modifications to a common element an owner wished to make saying it violated bylaws.
So they went ahead and got on the board, then did the modification anyway without seeking approval from rest of board they now controlled.
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Response by truthskr10
over 3 years ago
Posts: 4088
Member since: Jul 2009
THere is also a chance its a grandfathered unit as well.
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Washing machines require proper plumbing and ventilation (often to the roof) to minimize the pressure on the drain stack. I am not an engineer- so I can't comment in full- but it truly might be a case of a signficantly larger apartment might be a combination in in lieu of having an additional kitchen connection or bathroom connection not in use allowed for this washing machine to be installed. Non venting dryers are usually not that much of an issue- though you might need to upgrade the electric in the apartment or even adding capacity to the floor in order to accommodate a dryer.
You should ask your managing agent about this- and take it from there.
I raise the likelihood thar it was an illegal renovation. Illegal renovations are rampant and not infrequently seen in the apartments of board members themselves. This is an area where those affected (other residents in the building) have no practical recourse unless they get on the board themselves and make cleaning up illegal renovations a priority.
@MCR - I would argue breaking the rules (rather than changing ones they dislike) is the main motivators of half the people on boards.
My building rejected some modifications to a common element an owner wished to make saying it violated bylaws.
So they went ahead and got on the board, then did the modification anyway without seeking approval from rest of board they now controlled.
THere is also a chance its a grandfathered unit as well.
@steve123 - I sadly agree.
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