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Worst sqft estimate?

Started by talljaystreet
about 17 years ago
Posts: 70
Member since: May 2008
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I know brokers almost always stretch the meaning of square footage but this one's probably around 20% over. http://www.streeteasy.com/nyc/sale/348755-coop-239-east-79th-street-yorkville-new-york Any worse ones out there?
Response by nyc212
about 17 years ago
Posts: 484
Member since: Jul 2008

talljaystreet, this cannot be an honest error. This is just misrepresentation... I am shocked. Maybe it's a duplex and the floor plan is missing the 2nd floor?

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Response by nyc10022
about 17 years ago
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Member since: Aug 2008

it is 25 feet wide, tops. It is 33 feet long, tops. And missing a chunk.
So 33 * 25 - 6*8 for the chunk is 777 square feet.

I'd say maybe its the wrong floorplan, but the apartment number is WRITTEN ON IT.

That is a 22.2% lie at least.

But, as I've said before, why are we ever surprised when we catch brokers lying...

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Response by Special_K
about 17 years ago
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Member since: Aug 2008

look at that broker, he looks like he either sells men's suits or used cars... or both!

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Response by Jerkstore
about 17 years ago
Posts: 474
Member since: Feb 2007

I wonder if John McCain picked up his flagrant lying tendencies from the realtors who sold Cindy and the Senator those eight houses.

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Response by newbuyer99
about 17 years ago
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Member since: Jul 2008

20% overstatement is not unusual in my experience. My favorite posts (on the comps thread, I think), expose the same apartment listed a few years ago, and again now. The apartment has magically increased in square footage over that time.

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Response by toast
about 17 years ago
Posts: 49
Member since: Jul 2008

First, I agree it is off. But worst? I don't think it is that much worse than many...

Most disclaimers say they are from the oenter of the wall or outside studs/windows, which can easily add 1 foot to a room each way. For examply. A 10*10 room measured on the inside could be 11*11 when you go to into the walls and out to the hallway and exterior window. Thus 121 instead of 100, or a 21% difference. If you call them on it, they would tell you they are right.

My favorite says it is "certified" in the sales literature. I think they are including the outside hallway, elevators and fire stairs. The say 1623 (or 1607 for the mirror apt) I think about 1280.
http://www.streeteasy.com/nyc/sale/97054-condo-1474-third-avenue-upper-east-side-new-york

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Response by evnyc
about 17 years ago
Posts: 1844
Member since: Aug 2008

I've seen a bunch of 550-600 s/f apartments advertised as 800 sf. I usually do my own estimates based on the floor plans.

Without getting into the projected percentage drop conversations already happening in other threads, it seems to me that a lot of apartments in this city would be more affordable if they were priced according to actual size. Anyone else have thoughts on this?

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Response by talljaystreet
about 17 years ago
Posts: 70
Member since: May 2008

toast, I have to agree the listing you posted is even worse.

Imagine if other industries could get away with this with "disclaimers"...I might not fly overseas any more. :)

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Response by memito
about 17 years ago
Posts: 294
Member since: Nov 2007

Why isn't this considered outright fraud?

People are selling multi-million dollar apartments and openly lying about their characteristics - and get away with it as if it is some sort of norm (and I suppose it is).

Brokers that do this should be jailed.

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