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CREDIT SUISSE Said to use Illiquid Securities to pay Bonuses

Started by notadmin
over 17 years ago
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wow, aren't these guys taking their own medicine? anyway, after the vesting period they might not be illiquid anymore. i guess the news is the shrinking proportion of bonuses paid in cash. From Bloomberg "The bank will use leveraged loans and commercial mortgage-backed debt, some of the securities blamed for generating the worst financial crisis since the Great Depression, to fund executive compensation packages, people familiar with the matter said. [...] The securities will be placed into a so-called Partner Asset Facility, and affected employees at the bank, Switzerland's second biggest, will be given stakes in the facility as part of their pay. Bonuses will take the first hit should the securities decline further in value."
Response by NYC10013
over 17 years ago
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Note that employees receive LIBOR + 2.5% (4.0%) so the banks are making money on the spread. Anyone know if they have to pay income taxes on the grant (don't know vesting schedule) - would really suck if you have to come out of pocket to pay the income taxes but don't see any returns for 4-5 years (as the article states).

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Response by notadmin
over 17 years ago
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do you see this scheme becoming popular? for next year bonuses? clearly there's a widespread understanding that they have nowhere else to go... so instead of "retention packages" they are delivering "dumping toxic assets packages".

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Response by tech_guy
over 17 years ago
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I have no idea how their system works, but the comparable system for tech stock compensation is: stocks are taxed at vesting date (and a portion are sold whether you like it or not to cover withholding taxes), options are taxed at exercise date.

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Response by urbandigs
over 17 years ago
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I know a few at CS - its scary. This wont last. if they have to do this to fund retention of talent and help with bonuses, what money is left to buy other held illiquid assets; I ask quietly to myself?

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Response by notadmin
over 17 years ago
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UD it impacts only MDs on, not the rank and file (those that i know). is it possible they want to politely ask expensive employees to go without having to pay them retention packages? some employees will surely feel offended with these type of bonuses.

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Response by nyc10022
over 17 years ago
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Tech guy, you need to do some more research...

you have two sets of tax systems, regular and the AMT. Options get SMACKED by the amt...

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