New yorkers leaving for Chicago

"I used to think New York winters were cold, but after enduring a month of sub zero temperatures and 30 mile an hour winds, New York seems balmy."

"I used to fear going to East New York and the South Bronx, but after being mugged twice next to my luxury hi-rise in the Gold Coast, New York seems positively safe."

"I used to think that the Hudson was not that clean, however, after hearing about Lake Michigan's pollution problems and learning the Hudson is swimable, I realized how stupid I was. Plus, even when Lake Michigan is not polluted, it's only warm enough to swim in for a month."

"I used to think that Lake Michigan was a good place to land a plane, however, I soon learned that the Hudson was an even better place to land."

I read the "Chicago Scene's - Best of the city '09" guide highlights, and I have to say, I am thinking about moving to Chicago. Some of the highlights.

- Best deep dish pizza
- Best hot dogs
- Best way to get seats to baseball's most cursed team
- Best places to collect unemployment insurance
- Best places to get mugged

I can't wait to move!!

If this is what helps you avoid the night terrors Rufus...well...more power to ya.

I'm not really sure what your article is supposed to prove either. So two people who used to reside in NYC now live in Chicago. Is this really news? I wonder how many people move from Chicago to NYC? Oh thats right...you were 'supposed' to be one of them!

can you please be one of them rufus and never speak on these boards again?!!

fox: rufus doesnt live in ny, hes stuck in chicago because columbia rejected him, i think its hilarious how he continues to post on here and pretends not to know that we know all about his pathetic past. lets see if he'll ever respond to columbia rejection thread... he's such a loser.

I'm walking on 22nd east side when a woman comes out of a doorman bldg and a kid runs up to her pushes her down and grabs her bag. He must have been only 14 years old. I've never experienced that ever.

Ummmm

According to the Census,

NYC'ers who moved to Chicago from 2000-onward: 8,199
Chicagoans who moved to NYC from 2000-onward: 10,398

NYC is much more expensive but Chicagoans don't care, they are just desperate to escape that cesspool. Who would blame them?

But these are just FACTS, so you'll more than likely ignore them.

Oh, and nobody is moving to Chicago since their growth "rate" is -62,700.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/census/2007-06-28-census-growth_N.htm

Much more people are leaving than moving in. I can't imagine anybody who would voluntarily want to live in Chicago.

julia, what you saw is pretty common in Manhattan. But what do you expect when there are so many housing projects and homeless shelters on the island?

Good job baiting PsychoCrackerBoy, Julia!!!

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/chi-kass-bd08-feb08,0,4534764.column

Don't look too closely at Daley's Olympic plan

The Tribune has commissioned a new poll asking taxpayers whether they support Mayor Richard Daley's 2016 Olympic dream.

But the pollsters didn't call me, so I conducted my own poll on the cheap, while shaving.

Just look at yourself in the mirror, while trying to shave that stubborn stubble from under your nose, and ponder whether it's smart to give the Daley gang billions of dollars to run the Olympics. There's only one question in the Kass poll. Just ask yourself:

"Does wanting the Olympics in Chicago make me a big chumbolone?

"Chumbolone" is the immortal term uttered by corrupt Chicago cop Anthony Doyle, convicted of being a messenger boy for imprisoned Chicago mob bosses in the Family Secrets trial. In those prison visits, he insisted he didn't hear anything. All he did was nod when the boss was talking, over and over, nodding like some Chinatown-crew bobblehead doll.

"I didn't know what he was talking about," Doyle explained from the witness stand. "I don't wanna look like a chumbolone, an idiot, stupid."

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Here's yet another example of N.Y. lording it over crime-ridden Chicago, as usual, plus some of the usual of myriad tawdry goings-on in that big town on the big lake:

http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/history/1422240,history-gallery-0210.photogallery

New Yorkers are so depressed about the city's decline that they're now linking to newspaper articles from the 1920's. Meanwhile, I'm discussing what's happening CURRENTLY. Get with the times, alanhart.

No...you're delusional. Here's what's currently happening

http://www.forbes.com/2009/02/06/most-miserable-cities-business-washington_0206_miserable_cities_slide_4.html?thisSpeed=15000

But you won't respond to this because you can't.

And you could find similar articles from every decade since the 1830s, because that's the essence of Chicago. Bang bang.

Now, PsychoCrackerBoy, respond to the Pulitzer-prize winning Forbes article. Tell us that Forbes is liberal propaganda or something like that.

My guess is he will just start a new thread on projects or something. Anything to take peoples attention away from the real question.

Oh, and the Sun-Times article is from 1949, meaning you'd fail a basic psychological evaluation. Who's the President of the United States of America?

That Forbes ranking is retarded. Its two most important measures are weather and bad commutes. It doesn't consider that NYC has the highest tax burden in the country, most expensive rents, etc.

Everyone in Chicago is amused with this "ranking."

I love it. You make sweeping statements with zero evidence and pass them off as fact. When a reputable magazine publishes the unfortunate truth (unfortunate for you at least), it's nothing more than an 'amusing ranking'.

I'm amazed you are able to look at yourself in the mirror everyday.

from the mayo clinic website, rufus you have officially been diagnosed...

"Narcissistic personality disorder symptoms may include:

Believing that you're better than others
Fantasizing about power, success and attractiveness
Exaggerating your achievements or talents
Expecting constant praise and admiration
Believing that you're special
Failing to recognize other people's emotions and feelings
Expecting others to go along with your ideas and plans
Taking advantage of others
Expressing disdain for those you feel are inferior
Being jealous of others
Believing that others are jealous of you
Trouble keeping healthy relationships
Setting unrealistic goals
Being easily hurt and rejected
Having a fragile self-esteem
Appearing as tough-minded or unemotional
Although some features of narcissistic personality disorder may seem like having confidence or strong self-esteem, it's not the same. Narcissistic personality disorder crosses the border of healthy confidence and self-esteem into thinking so highly of yourself that you put yourself on a pedestal. In contrast, people who have healthy confidence and self-esteem don't value themselves more than they value others.

When you have narcissistic personality disorder, you may come across as conceited, boastful or pretentious. You often monopolize conversations. You may belittle or look down on people you perceive as inferior. You may have a sense of entitlement. And when you don't receive the special treatment to which you feel entitled, you may become very impatient or angry. You may also seek out others you think have the same special talents, power and qualities — people you see as equals. You may insist on having "the best" of everything — the best car, athletic club, medical care or social circles, for instance.

But underneath all this grandiosity often lies a very fragile self-esteem. You have trouble handling anything that may be perceived as criticism. You may have a sense of secret shame and humiliation. And in order to make yourself feel better, you may react with rage or contempt and efforts to belittle the other person to make yourself appear better."

there is a reason he is always focusing on housing and services for drug addicts and the mentally ill. he is clearly sick and needs help. which is why people should ignore him rather than engage and/or confront him. they only way he will ever seek out help is if he stops getting attention on here.

It was a particularly harsh winter for you in Chicago, rufus.

Sorry to hear that Chicago is continuing to lose population, jobs, wealth, and the only bright spot they had on their horizon...the 2016 Olympics. The IOC has released statements that they are going to hold the corruption in Illinois politics in high regard when they consider potential bids.

rufus, what kind of a job do you have in Chicago? Do you work as a bagger at the local Jewel supermarket?

kingdeka, Chicago is the prohibitive favorite to win the 2016 Olympics. Obama's election, although I personally despise him, has basically sealed it.

PsychoCrackerBoy, you didn't answer kingdeka's questions.

Waiting.

rufus: "Chicago is the prohibitive favorite..." You should look up the meaning of prohibitive and how to use it. As used in your post, it makes all the sense it would if a monkey were to have typed it.

Don't worry .. 2016 is right around the corner. Maybe by then you'll get into Columbia Business School!

The International Olympic Committee doesn't share your opinion about Chicago's chances, rufus:

http://multimedia.olympic.org/pdf/en_report_1317.pdf

According to the IOC, the group that decides which city hosts the Olympics, not President Obama or the Chicago media, Chicago is a distant 3rd or 4th, with Tokyo and Madrid as the IOC favorites.

I can understand why you would think so, because you do live in Chicago and are subjected to the Chicago media bias. It is basically the only hope to save the city. Things have gotten so depressing and economically devastating in Chicago that they must hold onto the hope of hosting the Olympics 7 years from now, even though it is apparent their chances are not even favorable.

BTW, rufus, the only people who dream or want to move to Chicago are fat Iowa farm girls and even fatter Missouri rednecks.

Chicago is called the City of Big Shoulders and Even Bigger Waistlines.

In fact, the Summer Olympics have in the past been awarded to Chicago (1909, I believe). But even then they decided to move the games to St. Louis. Some things are eternal.

and, as I know you were rejected by Columbia, your reading comprehension might not be on the level with NYers, skip to page 108 Final Results.

Chicago was ranked 3d/4th, with Tokyo as the favorite, then Madrid, and Chicago and Doha as 3 and 4, respectively, but with almost identical scores.

Keep dreaming, ruffie. It's all you have left.

kingdeka, you're delusional if you think Tokyo or madrid will win the bid. There's no way the IOC will give it to an asian city after beijing hosted it last year. Madrid might have a chance, but they don't have the public transportation, hotel rooms, and infrastructure of Chicago.

rufus, are you really that dumb?

Do you just speak whatever you feel even though it contradicts fact?

The IOC ranked Chicago's transportation system 2nd worst in the bidding cities, second only to Prague. Madrid was ranked much higher than Chicago. And Madrid's infrastructure is ranked higher than Chicago's.

But it doesn't matter whether you think I'm delusional, or even what you or I think. It's what the IOC thinks, and their report shows us what they think. They think that Tokyo or Madrid are the favorites.

So how many discussion boards to you belong to? Just found out about your law school discussion board, you pathetic loser.

Madrid received a much much higher score than Chicago in the last round.

Seven consecutive games were held in Europe. And by your "logic", Rio is a shoo-in . . . the Olympic Games have never been held in South America.

I seriously don't understand why you don't just kill yourself PsychoCrackerBoy.

LOL, Rufus is so dumb! No wonder no school in NYC would take him.

There is no way in hell Chicago will win the Olympic bid, especially if you actually read the article presented before you wish doesn't think favorable of Chicago.

Chicago's public transportation is disgusting. The city is crappy too. It will be in Madrid.

There is NOTHING in manhattan that can compete with the views you get standing on lake shore drive looking towards the lake. Or the view of the magnificent Chicago skyline from a penthouse apartment in river north.

Even if you live in a penthouse in tribeca or soho, your view is ugly low-rise buildings and dirty streets.

^ I still don't get how you can't seem to comprehend that for someone to actually want to have a view of a lake, they would have to want to live in Chicago. Do you get this concept? I'm really not sure what is so hard to get here.

No one here wants to live in Chicago. You could tell me I could see the surface of the moon or zombie Elvis from a condo in Chicago and I still wouldn't give a sh*t. It does not matter what views you have, what nightlife there is, what restaurants you can eat at, at the end of the day it is still fuc*ing Chicago. This is about NYC. I know you've been doing this for the better part of 6 months (which is pathetic beyond belief) but the fact that you continue to push on really just goes to show how small your brain is. It is no wonder Columbia rejected you, you most likely misspelled your own name on your application.

'Painful Lessons': Abuse At Chicago Schools
Hundreds Of Kids Beaten, Whipped, Even Choked By Teachers, Coaches

http://cbs2chicago.com/investigations/Painful.Lessons.Abuse.2.931134.html

Move to Chicago where the teachers will beat the sh*t out of you precious children in school.

Were you abused by your teachers Rufus?

I'm sorry, did I miss something between Prada's comment (four before this one), and PsychoCrackerBoy's comment (three before this one)? How does one get from the 2016 Madrid Olympics to a polluted body of water in the middle of nowhere?

alanhart, rufus is on so many different discussion boards talking about Chicago and New York that he occasionally posts a rebuttal on the incorrect webpage. He has been exposed as being on at least 4, and who knows how many others.

He feels the need to defend living in Chicago to anyone who will listen. I suspect now that as one of his aliases is JCC that he attends Joliet Junior College in Joliet, Illinois. Would explain his intelligence level.

Joliet Junior College !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LMAO!

I was thinking something about JJ from "Good Times" (set in quintessential Chicago, in the greater Lincoln Park vicinity). Maybe "JJ Crackerboy".

alanhart and kingdeka, you are typical New Yorkers. You think you know it all. Meanwhile, the rest of the world are laughing at you for overpaying and living like you are in a third world country.

MichaelAdam is Rufus, who was rejected by his dream school and dream city, Columbia and New York City.
He loved the city until sour grapes set in...

This is all well documented...
http://www.streeteasy.com/nyc/talk/discussion/8131-rufus-mystery-solved

He is so jealous he spends all day trying to post negatively about NYC.

Man, this guy is so pathetic...

"got rejected at columbia business and am pretty devastated."

"Oh well. I have to spend an extra year in shitty Chicago and reapply for round 1 next year."

"I've been to NYC several times but haven't really partied extensively. But almost everyone I've talked to who lives there tells me how NYC is so much fun and doesn't really get boring, people are interesting, etc. To what extent is this true? What makes NYC so much more fun than other cities like LA, SF, Boston, Chicago, etc.?"

"I live in Chicago but have been to NYC quite a few times and noticed a very sharp difference in the respective social scenes. Chicago seems much more fratty and bar oriented while NYC is a bit more upscale and pretentious. The girls in NYC also dress a lot better as well. I would like to hear opinions on this subject from those of you familiar with both cities."

"Thanks for the encouragement. I'm just really bummed out since I'm 27 years old, and now is the perfect time to go. And socially, I'm extremely dissatisfied with Chicago and really want to be in NYC. I just have to improve my application for next year and hope things turn out better"

Now that he's been rejected multiple times, he's changed his story a bit.

MichaelAdam is another rufus alias...

pretty clear here:

http://www.streeteasy.com/nyc/talk/discussion/8453-nyc-is-full-of-arrogant-know-it-alls

"Chicago is less crowded, less expensive, and has a calmer vibe."

So are Kansas, Cleveland, Detroit, Newark, Trenton, Topeka, Peoria....

need I go on?

"I used to fear going to East New York and the South Bronx, but after being mugged twice next to my luxury hi-rise in the Gold Coast, New York seems positively safe."

ROTFL.

Have any of you actually BEEN here? Chicago is America's equivalent to Paris. It is indeed a metropolis. If you correlate the amount of buildings to the populations of the two cities Chicago blows new York outta the water. Think about it. You're on the edge of the country, foreigners had to AT LEAST pass through new York to get to Chicago. Were the central American stronghold. You're a port. Also, a Chicago block is twice the size of a new York block and new York is FILTHY. Not hating (unlike most of you)

Wow..why are New Yorkers so harsh on the city of Chicago. What they're describing sounds nothing like where I live. I've been to New York and it was a great city but just because I prefer Chicago doesn't mean I have to condem NewYork. I can run off a laundry list of stereotypes about the unpleasantries of NewYork but every city has its draw backs. I travel a lot but I have yet to find a city that offers the variety I get from Chicago. It's a very social city with tons of great events. The architecture alone rivals the best of them. I find it very offensive that people who probably never been to Chicago feel that they can sum the city up from reading a few statistics. I mean are New Yorkers really saying how you can get mugged in Chicago?? Lets at least keep it real.. Since when did New York become the poster child for safe dwellings. I can only speak from my own experience as an educated individual that travels the world. I love Chicago and all it has to offer which is plenty and I don't have to run off the bad statistics of New York to know that. Go ahead and have pride in your city but don't talk bad about a city that obviously you know nothing about... Nothing like an over opinionated individual who think there better than the next man because of where they live..