High End Example, Inonada Edition
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Spurred by kylewest's thread about a rather pedestrian 2000 sq ft village apt (IMO) for $4.5M: http://streeteasy.com/nyc/talk/discussion/29983-high-end-reno-example http://streeteasy.com/nyc/sale/663623-coop-33-fifth-avenue-greenwich-village-new-york I present how I would spend somewhat less and get much more. Here is a 3000 sq ft jaw-dropping architecural wonder, award-winning interior design, 6... [more]
Spurred by kylewest's thread about a rather pedestrian 2000 sq ft village apt (IMO) for $4.5M: http://streeteasy.com/nyc/talk/discussion/29983-high-end-reno-example http://streeteasy.com/nyc/sale/663623-coop-33-fifth-avenue-greenwich-village-new-york I present how I would spend somewhat less and get much more. Here is a 3000 sq ft jaw-dropping architecural wonder, award-winning interior design, 6 outdoor spaces covering 1000+ sq ft, light & views to boot. It just rented with an asking rent of $14K. The neighborhood is as charming & nice as anything in Manhattan, but a bit remote, which is the downside on this apt. http://streeteasy.com/nyc/rental/837036-rental-23-beekman-place-beekman-new-york [less]
Lots more pics & architectural drawings:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/42559288@N04/sets/72157623009186416
http://prudolph.lib.umassd.edu/node/4568
$4.5MM @ 5% return... = $18.75K/month.... and no bubble popping downside risk!
Where do I sign up for the rental. By the looks of it, my portable suction cup based dildos will have lots of places to use....
Oh to DREAM of a REAL vulva or a REAL plaster permanent dildo... dare I dream to OWN...... FLMAOZzzzzzz
NO BUBBLE HERE.. let's move on.
Add another $4K for monthlies, another $4K to amortize transaction costs, another $1K for minimal insurance and upkeep, you're talking $28K a month. Double, for a lesser space.
This would be a great set for a cross-over architectural XXX REAL real estate porn.
'portable suction cup based dildos will have lots of places to use....'
Forward thinking design that marries suction friendly surfaces with the ability to be cleaned with a SEARS power washer. What is with this all white design business? Who wants to live in a Calvin Kline clothing store? I say we (SE regulars) pool our money and rent it out for a month. Everyone shows in a wetsuit and bicycle helmet armed with a giant supersoaker filled with astroglide. We divide into our two camps and we work this thing out once and for all.
I don't think at $4.5MM (for the unit I like in the other thread) you really care much about the monthly cost break down. Anyway the above apt is indeed beautiful and stunning if a bit severe--hardly timeless design, but certainly says "wow" for now. In a wasteland, though. Great if you don't mind leaving your home and being surrounded by a botox-frozen, monochrome populous. UES depresses me beyond measure, but maybe the water views would perk me up.
Dickse:
Saw your webpage. Personally, I think you look nicer than
the apartment.
Falco, great suggestion. Who gets what floors?
"Anyway the above apt is indeed beautiful and stunning if a bit severe--hardly timeless design, but certainly says "wow" for now."
Believe it or not, the apt was architected & designed & built in 1977. The renovation several years ago was done to stay within the original style. Think "carefully and lovingly restores in the authentic style of the period", but only it's modern rather than pre-war.
No question it is severe, but the fact that you said "wow for now" on a 35-year-old crazy-out-there apt speaks to the architect's skill & vision. I was personally floored when I found out this thing is from the 70's -- I would have never guessed.
"I don't think at $4.5MM you really care much about the monthly cost break down."
I disagree.
too cold.. not enough juxtaposition... this interior would befit an exterior log cabin..
the view is great, but water and metal = not enough wood to balance. too much metal.
the overly trendy white floors will be dated in a year (have been dated in gay years, thanks to bromstad)...
it needs a frameless canvas painting somewhere..
yes, im jealous.
1977. Wow. Would love to see before and after shots of the reno. From quick look at photos many materials looked more high-tech modern than was available in 1977, but I didn't study it all that close.
KW, the pic at the top here is before. Clicking on the slide show reveals anothe before shot (as well as some after shots):
http://nymag.com/homedesign/fall2006/21968
The thing was built by the guy who lived there, Paul Rudolph, who was dean of the Yale School of Architecture for some period. The place was his home & also his private lab to try out new ideas & materials.
1977? Whoa. They had suction cup dildos back then?
Must shop for appropriately aged dildos to match the 1977 theme.
For those of you that cannot imagine the indignity of renting, never fear. Another Paul Rudolph design is available for sale at $38.5M. A full townhouse, around double the space of this one with a better location but no views, built for Halston in 1966:
http://streeteasy.com/nyc/sale/644378-townhouse-101-east-63rd-street-lenox-hill-new-york
I apologize for debasing the place, but what's the monthly cost of $38.5M? Something like $150-200K?
Here's a Paul Rudolph in the Village for KW, done in 1993:
http://streeteasy.com/nyc/sale/551762-townhouse-42-west-11th-street-greenwich-village-new-york
http://www.cantorpecorella.com/42w11.html
Started at $15M in 2010, now at $11M. Was on the market for rent at $35K for a couple of months too.
"1977? Whoa. They had suction cup dildos back then?
Must shop for appropriately aged dildos to match the 1977 theme."
Be sure to ask for vintage Halston.
inonada,
4 th floor bathroom, round area marked shower is actually an Orgasmatron which broke in 1986 right after the Mets won the series but before Paul Simon Central park show. The device is serviced by the same people you call to fix the Sub-Zero. Needless to say, the Orgasmatron was too expensive to fix.
That 4th floor bathroom is money. The bathtub has views all around, is fed water from a waterfall, and sits underneath a skylight that runs the width of the top floor:
http://m.flickr.com/#/photos/42559288@N04/4189126958
A low-tech replacement for the orgasmatron.
i remember when the Halston place first went on the market after his death. Walkways around the bamboo garden atrium looked dizzying. The architect's POV is powerful. For the apartment you better have a very enthusiastic housekeeping staff for all that white--but I do generally like it. Just hate the location. I find the area makes me very sad for some reason. The only time the neighborhood looks good to me is in the golden light of dawn on a clear day when viewed from the Roosevelt Island (an entire enclave of design disasters) or the 59th St bridge. But then again, that kind of light makes everything look good--sort of the visual equivalent of frying food which makes even leather tasty.
"For the apartment you better have a very enthusiastic housekeeping staff for all that white"
Maybe they should write a NY Times article on that very subject? Woops, already been done ;).
http://www.nytimes.com/1998/12/03/garden/toil-and-trouble-in-plexi-land.html
Have you been on this particular street & enclave? Very pleasant. Less interesting as soon as you hit 1st Ave, and far from "life" on 2nd Ave. Definitely not one of my top choices for neighborhood either.
around the corner
http://streeteasy.com/nyc/sale/581702-townhouse-414-east-50th-street-beekman-new-york
Ino: Great stuff. I have always drooled over that Halston place. Guess that is my answer to kyle thread. Btw, Miami still a buy--inspite of the brazilian/asian feeding frenzy-- due to foreclosure tsunami just starting up anew. Just bid on a foreclosure on the beach that is almost 50% below 2004 price. C'mon Ino, c'mon down. You will love the sun, the art, the salsa, the food,......the RE prices.
apt23, any troubles with the police in Miami?
Some of this is so awful it's painful to look at -- who would want a long bank of vinyl/leather/whatever against a wall in a residence. This looks like some idiots idea of what a cool architectural design would be.
I'm too much of a homebody to actually use a 2nd home meaningfully, apt23. And the thought of a 2nd home being under-utilized, well I'm just allergic to waste like that. Just gotta get my work set up so that I need to spend half my time in Miami ;).
BUT, do post some links to your favorite mint Miami foreclosures for us to drool over. I want to know what I'm missing!
"This looks like some idiots idea of what a cool architectural design would be."
Heh. That "idiot" was a pretty well-known architect circa 50 years ago. The built-in furniture was because he didn't like traditional furniture.
Brooks, did you notice "Ideal for a private home or government consulate" on the townhouse listing you posted? I really don't like how the place was renovated, seems uninspired. Good for a consulate maybe, but not what the sort of thing that would have me parting with $9M.
agree, I think they bot if for under 5mm
414 e50 finally went under contract
and yet, inoitall is still wearing that same t-shirt
what are you wearing?
what are you wearing?
what are you wearing?
Where are you living? Investing?
Amazing you guys are still going at it!
It's the weather. And I sprained my ankle. Bored.
You sprained your ankle? Does that mess up the vacation plans?
C0C0, did you figure out what your two other selves were wearing?
So not clever.
Aboutready, I head you used to get paid as a writer on a web site. What happened to that?
My word, what happened here. End of an era. In any event, I had not noticed that nada's high end rental example is now for sale. Encountered some prospective buyers outside waiting for agents. A mere 28 million to buy the whole thing, when one could have rented the penthouse for a pittance. At the high end, you get quite a bang for your buck if rent; I wish renting suited my personality because it does make a lot financial sense in NY. http://streeteasy.com/building/paul-rudolph-penthouse-apts/house
This thread is kind of creepy with c0lumbiac0unty asking someone who doesn't even exist what he or she is wearing three times in a row.
Nada recommended this very rental to me when I was looking in early 2012. It was not right fit for me because it was a lot more than I needed spacewise, but less than I needed service-wise. Special property.