Sessanta...is a scam

We visited the Sessanta and got a creepy vibe. We walked when we discovered their "pet friendly" attitudes stopped at 35 pounds. So, maybe the building is full of nasty little aggressive doggies instead of our sweet Yellow Lab.

Sounds like you made a good decision to just walk!

living there now. generally happy with the unit. it's spacious, new and relatively reasonably priced. but algin sucks. they are a pain to deal with and definitely not one you can trust. as opposed to pan am, my last landlord, who was always willing to work with me. there is a lot of construction growing pains that are annoying, but for now its still worth it. in a month, if things are still like this, then it will not have been.

odd - not sure about the dog policy, but i've seen them bigger than 35lbs in the building. and yes, the location is very bleh. it's a long 7 - 10 minute walk to time warner, which for some may not be worth it. particuarly in the bleak winter cold, which i have not had to deal with yet.

i don't know. find me a 1450 sq ft brand new apartment with washer dryer for ~ 5k in the upper west side (60s - 80s). 2 br, 2 ba, + 11x13 media room. i haven't found it other than here. but yeah, the location kind of blows.

i agree that there is still plenty of construction esp with the tennis court, pool and gym etc but i think the area is excellent (less the fact that there is minimal retail). hudson river, centrl park, lincoln center, time warner center etc,,, Sorry to hear they scammed you on the rental concession, thats just plain wrong!
Go instead with the boutique condo next door... Enjoy, because when this place is completely finished its going to be great and happy to live here

i had the same scam pull on me earlier this summer. i had agreed to pay $1995 for a studio on a lower level. i agreed this price with one of the brokers. then this sha character comes and says that the studio is not for rent yet and that he will only rent another unit for $2400.

> i think the area is excellent

In what sense?

The lack of retail? The ugly streets? The proximity to the projects?

Define "excellent" for us.

Because I have no idea what would make this anything other than a lousy location.

yes, the immediate 1 block radius is bleh. but its 7 - 10 minutes to time warner, 5 minutes to lincoln center, 5 minutes to riverside park, etc.. i can think of many more "lousy" locations than this.

> i can think of many more "lousy" locations than this.

I can also think of a lot of locations lousier than Newark - baghdad, for instance - but that certainly doesn't make Newark "excellent".

10 minutes just to get to a subway in nowhere near excellent for Manhattan.

Between 96th and houston, this is one of the last places I'd ever want to live (other than the far west 50s, but thats next door).

if they ever finish it, and if you play tennis, the court will be a killer amenity.

so glad to hear people walking on BS like this. in this market you dont have to do anything these RE scumbags want.

Well, marco_m, touche, the developer and on-site broker are tools, and have alienated enough would-be renters who comment in threads such as this. It will be fun to watch the rates drop at this place.

amen to that. developer and broker are not good.

somewhereelse - i hear you to some extent. although let me add "in manhattan" to my original statement. personally, i'll take this over a lot of places in that stretch between 96th and houston, like anything above 90th, and basically anything between 30th - 50th, but to each his own.

oh yeah, the tennis court is $40 / hour. so not really an "amenity"

I made a trip there the other day and my initial impression, as I live in the 300 block of 56th St, was why was I walking so far west to an address that should actually be to the east of me. Anyway, the building has its construction challenges in the lobby, elevator, etc. but it will be great when completed. The living spaces are spacious, Apt 9M is nicely staged with an impressive view. The rents seemed a bit high for the distance from the subway, fine in warmer weather but winters there are going to be no picnic as the high winds pass over the icy Hudson. The doors to closets left me with an "institutional" feel. The closets in a NYC Housing project have solid wood doors and for the rents they're charging, one would expect a much better door selection. What I found highly distasteful were the charges for 'amenities'. Some examples, $500/yr per tenant for the gym, sauna & pool, a $250 deposit for washer/dryer plus $45 per month and $40/hr for the tennis courts, also not completed yet. For the rents they charge in a possibly 2-fare zone, their 'amenities' pricing needs to be re-visited. But in the end, its all a matter of one likes and will tolerate. To those currently residing there, I hope your experience will ultimately be positive but I do hope for your sake, they drop those rents drastically and quickly.

yeah, my wife refers to this as the ala carte menu, because every little ticky tack thing is an incremental charge. also, if you like quiet apartments, where you can't ever hear your neighbors, this is not the place. i can hear **everything** next door - thankfully my neighbors are pretty quiet. having lived in older buildings, the noise level was kind of a surprise to us. is this the state of new construction these days?

What is a $250 deposit for the washer dryer? $45 per month covers what? Just use of it?

Closet doors is a true observation generally in some of these buildings!

This is my renting dilemma. Luxiry is hardly what it claims. The new buildings have cheap finishes high prices and all the bullshit of their pretend exclusivity and amenity charges.

The old places are falling apart and things like Styvesant Town are not being maintained.

I wonder if the 50s/60s/70s co-ops are better because the owners want it or they are old owners who don't care about the upkeep.

the problem is that to buy, my monthly costs would be substantially higher. so rent we do...

you put $250 down on w/d, i guess in case it breaks. The $45 is a basically a rental fee. i had to have the w/d, so basically i mentally just raised my rent $45 per month to get a unit with w/d. i know i'm way overpaying, but it feels better when i just lump it into rent.

Is there a rental fee for the shower too?

no, but there is a charge for the showerhead. j/k.

Do you have to pay if the doorman opens the door for you?

Oh 45 a month is 540 a year. How much to buy your own?

Love the location, its quiet and 5 to 8 min walk to eveything important in Lincoln Square. Also I am sure there will be plenty of retail in the area in 2010. The John Jay college expansion and the completion of all the buildings will be a huge benefit. I hear the construction quality of the adjacent condo is amazing and feel as the the rental is top quality as well. Major negative is all the lies from the brokers and developers on timing. I think it will be many many more months until the buildng is complete.

5 to 8 min, you must be an excellent power walker. I timed it to about 12 minutes to get to Columbus Circle and that's with me walking briskly.

sorry, but you must be a slow walker. my wife, pushing a stroller w/ kid, gets from our place to TWC in 10 minutes. i do it in about 8, in the morning. that's with me walking briskly. and i'm not a power walker.

Fred: the finishes are nice. however, i would not equate the construction quality of the condos (very nice) to that of the rental (not as nice). as i overheard one of the construction workers in my apartment one day, when i asked him to fix something up, he muttered "dude, it's not like you are buying the place..." really nice. i've had some issues in my apartment that you would not expect in top line construction.

You must mean when it is dry with the wind on your back. See what your time is in the dead of winter going uphill in icy side walk. That is when I timed it b/c it is the most dreadful time of all.

I actually had to go to that block from the trains at CC, and I budgeted 15 minutes. Its no man's land.

Maybe you run faster when the people from the projects are after you.

hsw: haha. fair point. i'm bracing myself for the winter. will probably go into hibernation with wifey and kid.

surprisingly, i've gotten used to the housing projects. it was a big concern when we moved there, but hasn't really ever been an issue. then again, we don't tend to go out late, so haven't been out there in later hours.

Walk to subway not really an issue, location near projects not an issue. Biggest issue: no neighborhood restaurants or bars. My biggest problem with the neighborhood was that the new buildings are all large and glassy with no small retail spaces for restaurants and bars (only a chocolate shop)

don't forget teh truffle shop!

Bigdude2000, you are right about the noise level. I hear every single sound in the hallway, elevator beep (even thought I'm on the other side of it), casual conversations, and OMG, shutting the doors.

But noise is not the biggest issue for me. Sessanta moved the front desk to the middle of the lobby which takes up an entire block (I suppose they didn't want to have an entrance for the 2nd building that is actually located on 61st street facing the projects). They completely left out 15-floors tower from doorman services. People come in and go to an elevator in the 1st tower and no one checks on them. It's a stupidest security, makes absolutely no sense.

The area is another issue. It sucks, despite "close proximity to Columbus Circle and Lincoln Center". Up until Columbus Ave it's just dreadful, and it will NEVER improve.
fred12345, "there will be plenty of retail in the area in 2010?!!!" The only change that is coming in 2010 is Public Bath House across the street, which I suspect will attract quite a crowd from the projects.

So, why rent in Sessanta? At a time, it seemed like a good option. The bathroom and kitchen are quite nice. But if they increase the rent next year, I see another move in my future :)

i'm not very familiar with the area, but i looked quickly at the apartments last weekend. what is the public bath house - is that actually used?? and where are the housing projects located? i must have missed those on my brief trip.

i do agree with other comments above though - it is a good 10-12 min walk to CC, and i am a pretty quick walker. i almost laughed in the face of the rental agent when she claimed it to be a 5 min walk ;-)

if that's the only lie she told you, i'd be amazed... having lived here a couple months now, i really do like it. but it does have it's negatives that others have pointed out accurately. but the biggest negative in my experience has been the sleaze factor of the agents. so annoying to have to parse through everything to get the truth.

the bath house faces the sessanta on 60th. no idea what's ther or planned. the projects are on amsterdam between 61st - 63rd.

Public bath house or pool: "The 60th Street wing of the recreation center is being reconstructed with an indoor state-of-the-art pool..." See http://www.nycgovparks.org/facilities/recreationcenters/M063

I promise you the neighborhood is very safe and close to all the major Lincoln Square attractions including the subways under a 8 min walk.... The building is state of the art... The brokers are slime; I am happy to be living in this neighborhood no doubt about it!

The Rec Center will be completed in nearly 2 years and by that time the neighborhood will be completely filled in. West you have the Extell luxury projects, north you have that high rise rental with massive retail on 66th and Amsterdam and a few key developments towards the south, east is all complete with time warner center and the park!

Look very forward to the end of 2010 when the entire $1.3 billion project revitalization of Lincoln Center is complete. Love Lincoln Square and the Sessanta / Adagio complex...very unique product

this building has great apartments. my friend rented at sessanta and is very happy. Great size homes, great amenities, and very pleased with management and brokers. I love visiting and when my lease is up, i'm going to see if they have an available apartment. I'd look on streetasy for an apartment if they took down the false comments above.

Well, ya gotta give Sessanta's on-site brokers/development office some credit for all the time they spend here on this SE thread pathetically trying to make rebuttals to all the negative comments posted here. LMAO.

oooo, otto, you're soooo hateful. now nottrueyou will never look on SE for an apartment. *sob*

I have never been to this building. Perhaps it is indeed a fine place to live, but the word Sessanta for some reason sounds much too like cesspool to me. Does anyone know what Sessanta actually means?

> Walk to subway not really an issue, location near projects not an issue.

Yes, if location doesn't matter, this neighborhood is perfect!

Sessanta = 60 in Eye-talian.

As in you have 60 seconds before the guys from the projects see you and take your wallet.

When I first moved in, I was annoyed that I had to pay an extra fee for the washer/dryer… plus a security deposit… but now that I have been here a few weeks, I realize that I will spend more than $45 in utilizing the machines in a month. I actually ended up saving money as opposed to going to the laundry room.

When the pool, tennis court, and all the “amenitities” are complete, hopefully in the near future it will be a great place to live. There will be some retail and restaurants since all this new construction will bring more people. I would very much rather pay what I’m paying then pay twice that to live in CC. I can personally use the 8-10 min walk to shed some pounds and pay half the rent than the overweight pushovers living in time warner :-). They’re the suckers.

And let me end this by saying “Sha” the broker at Sessanta is a tool and a BEEEPP BEEEPPP, but most broker’s are....

Wow, I log into SE for the first time to read feedback about apartments in the UWS and it seems like everyone sits in front of the computer all day and finds something to bitch about. Come on...half of these reviews sound like personal problems and nothing about the bldgs themselves. I recently went to the Sessanta and to be frank, it is a very nice luxury bldg...everyone was pleasant and helpful. yes the bldg is not finished, but will have great optional amenities for its residents. The walk????? ARE YOU KIDDING ME???? it took me no more than 5 minutes to go from the Columbus Circle Station to 60th and 10th where the bldg is. You guys must be some very unfit people. Maybe you should get your ass out your chair and stop complaining about the walking on and get some exercise so you can live a long life. 10 minutes of walking a day can make a huge difference! RE: The neighborhood projects: You cant avoid low income housing in nyc...dont be ridiculous. The internet is free...do your research properly before crying about it on SE...NYC has the largest public housing authority in North America...Manhattan alone has 103 developments with 53,830 apartments. Im not a real estate guru but damn...no matter where you walk in NYC you're gonna find something that is low-income or rundown. If you're so concerned about "the projects" and walking 5-10 minutes to the train station...get a car, pack your shit and move to the suburbs.

I agree, all of you on streeteasy critical of Sessanta are just losers. Sessanta is the best. Earlier I logged in and tried to be really nice about how Sessanta is great, but since everyone thought I worked for Sessanta I'm now trying it again by being rude to everyone and maybe that will convince people that Sessanta is great and that the complaints are just off-base. Ok I'll throw in some negatives so you can't see through me, but of course those negatives are just a matter of timing. Of course I'm also not upset by the extra charge for the washer and dryer.

This is typical of a rental development.
Buy land in a marginal area - and there is no more marginal than next to projects.
The renters don't know any better, many are young young professionals, not family people.
By virtue of the # of people they'll improve the area a bit.

No different from that Columbus Square development.

agreed. The scam works when the market is exploding.
But it looks really stupid in a crash....

The dilemma is, a stigma seems to get attached to the latter cases.

"I agree, all of you on streeteasy critical of Sessanta are just losers. Sessanta is the best. Earlier I logged in and tried to be really nice about how Sessanta is great,"

Is this person a complete moron, or just a third grader?

> The neighborhood projects: You cant avoid low income housing in nyc...dont be ridiculous.

Moronic. You can't avoid them... but that doesn't mean you should aim to live in them or right next door. Jeez.

Every town has a garbage dump, too. That doesn't mean you buy the plot next door.

Moronic.

Manhattan is a small island that is ful of the rich the poor and the ugly. Its a melting pot and living near super luxury buildings and low to moderate income buildings is not going to make a difference in a dynamic city like ours. Someone said it best, if you dont like the diversity and the 6 min walk to the subway then pack your shite ans move to the suburbs.

I love this part of Lincoln Square and it will only improve as the retail picks up... The construction and design quality at the adjacent condo building is much nicer at the Adagio so if you can find a unit owner that is looking to lease I am going to shoot to move there....

> low to moderate income buildings is not going to make a difference in a dynamic city like ours.

You have absolutely NO IDEA what you are talking about.

Proximity to projects has ALWAYS had a major effect on neighborhoods and values. Look at the corner of the UES closest to the projects, always a HUGE difference from the other spots. Or being behind the projects in chelsea. Or Fort Green.

Sorry, but this is just painfully wrong. Being near the projects has consistently been a major factor in the value of neighborhoods, particularly in declines.

this goes to "somewhereelse"---what makes you such a real estate expert? you sound like you have something personal against the people who live in the "projects" or you are a condo owner that got ripped off on your sale. ive been living in the uws for a very long time and ive seen this area grow and its still growing. i noticed more families,well-established people, celebrities, and athletes moving to this neighborhood. i highly doubt if the neighborhood was that bad that families would come to the UWS to raise their children; these new developments are making this a more desirable area.

Nice strawman.... besides the fact that you made up your claims, your post has nothing to do with the points made.

it just depends on how badly you don't want to live near a project. if i were buying, i probably wouldn't buy near a project, but mainly because i know a certain subset of the buyer base will not buy in that area. but, since i'm renting, i don't really have an issue - no one's ever bothered me, i walk home at night from work and feel pretty safe. i do expect lower rent, and i get it. to have the same unit in my old building (prime 60s UWS) would have cost me easily 1000 - 1500 more per month. i'll make that tradeoff all day.

Yes, but if a celebrity lives nearby, its ok, right?

;-)

"i don't really have an issue - no one's ever bothered me, i walk home at night from work and feel pretty safe."

Agreed that safety isn't the only factor. Besides the "what other people will value" there is just the neighborhood effect. Forget whether or not you will be mugged, this will also influence what stores, restaurants, etc. will pop up around it. What the parks will look like, etc.

You don't have to get mugged for there to be a quality of life issue.

Otherwise, we'd all be looking for apartments in the projects.

it's a fair point. we moved in a 2 months ago. we still do the same things we did back when we lived on 67th and bway. same restaurants, same parks, same stores. yeah, on occasion, i b---h about the walk when i've just passed 67th and bway and realize that i have another 10 minutes to walk. i do wish we had better stuff right next door. right now, it sucks. and frankly, i don't see it getting any better anytime soon.

but then i remember i'm saving a ton versus what i could be paying, and i'm ok with it.

Well, there is the rub. If its not important to you, don't pay for it.
We all have choices. Some people want to pay for more windows, or higher floors, or yoga rooms. They cost more, but you don't HAVE to pay it.

But pretending there is no value for anyone that should be paid for is nonsensical.

Serious question, is this location really any more out of the way than all those Trump buildings and Avery and Rushmore?

No. It's two long blocks to Columbus Circle. Avery and Rushmore have more of a hike to 66th and B'way. At the northern end of Riverside Blvd, e.g. 220 and 240, it's 1.5 long blocks. The middle buildings, from 66th to 70th, feel isolated because of the Lincoln Towers barrier wall.

"is this location really any more out of the way than all those Trump buildings and Avery and Rushmore?"

Its not just out of the way, its next to the projects.

And, if you hadn't heard, trump is getting killed. They're now renting one bedrooms they can't sell for $2400.

I love this area. The future of Manhattan is Lincoln Square. Since this amazing building (next door condo is even more amazing!)is so close to Lincoln Center and Time Warner Center it is in the middle of 2 iconic places. Cant wait until the $1.3 billion restoration of Lincoln Center is finished next year!!!!

I think it would make more sense to wait until the new building at 67th and amsterdam or the new building at 200 west 72nd street opens in february. both buildings are much more accessible to transport, civility, life. let's see what they price out at and then see how sessanta -- in the hinterlands-- reacts.

My mom just reminded me that friends of our family purchased right next door at 225 West 60th Street which is Hudson Condos and upon a bit more research I see 10 West End Avenue and Element Condos built there in the past couple years so really the owners were the first to take the plunge. Maybe not such a bad area then to rent in upon further reflection.

move in late summer. just seen this forum. Few things ive noticed

1. Walk to TWC is a pain, more like 8mins, 10 with our slow dog.
2. Sound proofing is not the best, moved out of a new building (<4y old) which was a lot better
3. They are SLOW to finish construction - initial promise was by end of november. Seems there has been little progress, and still the parking is not available. Their latests completion dates now mean nothing to me.
4. Door staff are friendly, brokers have not been, super is friendly, but seems overwhelmed
5. Something going on? We have seen several move outs since we got here. And window leakage problems, which are a problem with the building settling. But heard it can be worse then a window leaking.
6. Space is great, we had a housewarming where friends were v impressed with the amount of space for a nyc apartment. However see 2. on soundproofing, we were asked to turn music at 10pm on a sat!

Wld appr to hear from anyone who has moved out, or is having problems.

wow, sounds like you read my mind when writing your post. I actually really enjoy living here... more space than i could have hoped to afford for the rent I am paying. But there have been growing pains with living in new construction. I suppose it could have been worse, but I've had to deal with the leaky window as well as other minor issues that you wouldn't deal with in an established building. Also, some of our floorboards are popping up, so not sure what's going on there. Lesson i've learned is to never move into a brand new (unfinished) building.

I haven't seen people moving out - is that from the old building or from the new building? I'll have to ask around...

I'm curious to see where the 67th and 72nd rentals price out. I saw somewhere that they are charging $3800 for 1 br. That's a steep premium over what sessanta charges. i'm hopeful the new units create some downward pricing pressure, but not counting on it, since i think they're competing more with the glenwood building. I'd love to move back to 67th, probably my favorite area in the city. you couldn't pay me to live at 72nd and broadway. i know it's "prime" and a great location, but i personally hate that part of the UWS. And i can't imagine that it's all that quiet if you have street facing windows.

yes we have also had an issue with the floorboards, near the windows which are leaking. i could guess that this is due to the floor warping slightly hence the floorboards windows are affected - or its a coindicence.

location wise, my 2c, yes is not prime, but then you get the extra space and new building, that was clear payoff, but i would not recc this building to others based on our current experience

i would have recommended this to others, but not at the prices they are currently trying to gouge from potential renters. they are now offering 2 months free versus 1 month free when i signed, but the monthly rent is substantially higher. at the prices they want, i would move back to my old location.

i agree, would not reccomend this building at the premium prices they are trying. Mainly as the service has proven to be awful. Without doing into details I would urge any potential renters to simply speak with a few of the current tennants before renting - this is not a happy building.

> The future of Manhattan is Lincoln Square.

Anyone not shilling the building want to make that claim?

> ... is so close to Lincoln Center and Time Warner Center it is in the middle of 2 iconic places.

Ah, got it, someone who thinks Time Warner Center is an iconic place. Central Park, Lincoln Center, the Empire State Building, the Brooklyn Bridge, and... the Time Warner Center. You probably want to add Trump Tower in there.

Please update your tourist guides.

Its not TERRIBLE if you frequent the parks along the WSH...but having lived btw 10th/11th a few blocks south, I can safely say its a 10-15 minute hike to any subway line, which SUCKS in August and February.

And the cross-town bus at 57th is slower than a granny in a walker. Literally, I used to keep track of how much faster old people walking moved versus the bus going to & from work.

We looked at what is supposedly the "last" 3 bedroom available for rent this past weekend. They are offering 2 months free, but the base monthly is $7650! When I saw that nearly every floorboard showed signs of bowing in the rental office, I attributed it to a rush to finish that unit and the heavy foot traffic. But then the same thing was evident in the apartment we saw. The overall finish quality is below middling and the kitchen has absolutely no counter space, especially for a 3 bedroom. But my wife generally liked the floorplan, it is a true 3 bedroom.

I will say that the tennis court has more room in the alleys than just about any court in NYC. It's funny that the on site rental agent didn't mention anything about fees for the washer/dryer, gym, tennis, etc. Actually, it's only funny in the same way that $7650 is.

In the end, not a chance...

you can get a 3 bedroom in a nice building for that kind of money.

You can look on SE and see 31 3 bds doorman closer to the subway in the UWS

http://streeteasy.com/nyc/rentals/uws-manhattan/no_fee:0|price:6000-8000|beds:3|baths%3E=2|amenities:doorman

And 101 in Manhattan generally below 96th

http://streeteasy.com/nyc/rentals/manhattan/no_fee:0|price:6000-8000|beds:3|baths%3E=2|amenities:doorman

apparently the 3 beds are all filled! so i guess they have found tennants willing to pay.

but....beware those tennants, it will be a bumpy first few months, there are big flooring issues. all floors need replacing.

never seen a building with this type of top quality amenities. Very happy that the adjacent connected condo building will utilize all these amenities complementary. Torn between buying at the condo or renting for a year to get a better feel for Lincoln Square.. Not used to the area as we are moving from downtown. Large difference but I see how Lincoln Square is truly the future of Manhattan's cultural neighborhood center..

Going back to fred12345 comment, "I am sure there will be plenty of retail in the area in 2010".

CAR RENTAL came into the neighborhood !!! Finally! After a mere year the area is blessed with such delightful facility :)

On the upset, the only close by eatery - without taking a cab or schlepping for 15 min - Flame diner - had closed its doors for renovations with no opening date in mind.

Sad, so sad :)

nyclincoln, you have got to be kidding. Both in neighborhood, and in your indifference to renting vs. buying.

> never seen a building with this type of top quality amenities

so you've seen 2 buildings ever? This and lincoln towers?
;-)

Most unprofessional and disorganized rental building:
Lies about price.
Lies about availability.
Lack of full disclosure upon signing of lease.
Brokers scamming the building as well as the tenants.
I highly recommend avoiding this apartment rental as it is a complete waste of time and money. I also advise outside brokers to stay away from showing this apartment as it is a complete embarrassment and has the capacity to ruin credibility.

I live here and totally agree with the previous comment by "scammed". We moved in before construction was finished, our lease is up next year and I can't wait to move. I would rather live in a smaller more expensive apartment that to deal with the poor service and staff here. An example: just got a building wide notice today that the valet will only hold packages for 72 hours and then return them to the sender??!!! What? really? It's unbelievable, I've never lived in a building with such a rediculous policy. Guess I won't be tipping the valet this hoiday, considering the low standard of service. Oh, and foget trying to get anything fixed in your apartment, it takes weeks for any of our requests to get processed. My best advice: Do not even consider living here, its just not worth it.

They are still offering free month rent .. 3/2012!! :) ... Should tell you why! Nearby rentals have an occupancy rate of >97% and this place is offering FREE month rent!

It's important that you are comfortable with the surroundings of your new home before you move in. paying a little extra to avoid a possible scam is a good idea, especially when you have described the neighbourhood in such a bad light.

Yup, they're crooks. Charge for EVERYTHING....the gym, washer/dryer in apartment, the tennis court. NO shuttle to Columbus Circle like neighboring apartment buildings have either.

>Yup, they're crooks. Charge for EVERYTHING....the gym, washer/dryer in apartment, the tennis court.

All of this was hidden from the lease you signed?

the building is not well kept at all either! we live in a neighboring condo building and were lured in to some open houses by the cheaper rents but one look in the lobby and common spaces it was obvious they dont take pride in this building AND nickel and dime residents. pass!! we ended up renewing in our current building.

btw..if it takes you 15 mins to walk to columbus circle from here...i feel bad for you. 5-8 mins at most walking at a normal pace.

Sessanta is a nightmare. fridge was frozen for 2months and the super so lazy wouldnt fix it. then the toilet clogged and it took 2 days to get help. had to temporarily move out. the other issue is dog facility next door so many dogs are walked in front of building so shit is literally everywhere. they dont clean or disinfect so its extremely dirty.

Uh, ok, time to bring some sanity to this thread. Have been living her for past 16 months, moved from 1 Columbus Place (59th & 9th), a Brodsky building, and also lived at 45 West 60th (60th & 9th), a Glenwood building. This newer building is nicer and far less expensive than both of those. Live her along with my 60 lb dog. Unfortunately moving to DUMBO to be with my girlfriend but I will miss this place. Why? Because I have ZERO complaints about this building. Yes, it is a 7 minute walk to the subway. If that 7-minute walk (7 minutes!) is a dealbreaker for you, then don't live here, seriously. But otherwise, you get terrific bang-for-your-buck relative to other options in the area.

I pay under $4K for a 1BR/2BA 800 sq ft apt (got 1 month free when first signed lease). This was the ONLY high-rise I saw that offered high 10'-14' ceilings STANDARD for every apartment. This is a HUGE deal and makes my apt seem far more spacious than it actually is (closets also provide enormous storage space). The floor-to-ceiling windows are also a nice touch. And for $30/month, I have my own washer/dryer (rather than pay for the washer/dryers downstairs). This is a terrific amenity and something I'll dearly miss when I move. Stainless steel appliances all work very well and the bathrooms are quite nice with excellent water pressure! The gym is top-notch--clean, never too crowded, has all the machines you'd need. It has a small heated lap pool which is also very clean. And it even has a sauna in each locker room. OMG you have to pay ~$50/month for access to the gym JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER GYM IN THE CITY! Oh, and you get access to the terrific (and almost never busy) outdoor tennis court for just $25/hour (my tennis club at 43rd & 10th charges anywhere from $50-$90/hour). If you have a car, the elevators take you right down into the garage where the truly excellent attendants always have your car waiting right there for you. Could not be easier to jump in elevator and within seconds you're in your car. HUGE convenience at only $316/month (much cheaper than other options). The lobby is beautiful, the elevators work well, the mailbox location is convenient. AND finally you are within 1-block walking distance to a Diner, Duane Reade, Subway (sandwiches), Bagel shop, Wine/Liquor, Pet store, Pizza, Western Beef supermarket. And the benefit of being a bit far west is that you're so close to the river/Riverside Park. IF YOU HAVE A DOG AS I DO, there is a daycare place (Pawsitively Love on 60th) AND a vet (Hudson Animal Hospital on 61st) literally within 100 feet of the building exits. Quality people live in this building. In 13 years at other buildings, I knew maybe 2-3 other tenants on a first name bases whereas here I know at least 10-15. It is simply a nice place to live (FYI many of the NY Rangers used to live here before buying condos elsewhere on the block).

Finally, the staff who works there are terrific. They are friendly and down-to-earth and I have had no reason to complain about any of them. As for management, they've always worked with me, first to extend my lease for 1 month and then for another 3 months, all at my existing rate.

I highly recommend this building.

Please note that I have NEVER had any issue with the projects to the north. I walk by them all the time while walking my dog. If the Beacon high school can exist right outside without any problem, I'm sure you can endure as well.

You have to pay for replacement of light bulbs or you have prepare new light bulbs by yourself when you ask to replace. This is ridiculous and I have never been experienced this at other luxury rental buildings. There are other things we are frustrated so much about this building.

Aren’t you supposed to replace your own bulbs? These are consumables. When I rented, not a single landlord replaced my bulbs. It was always tip the handyman if you wanted them to replace bulbs.

Probably expects to be provided with toilet paper as well.

I was exactly thinking that but refrained from commenting.

Good article below.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/streeteasy.com/blog/landlord-responsibility-nyc/amp/