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1987 NY Times article about Harlem Gentrification

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Read this 1987 article from the NY Times: 20 Years Later and all of the exact same issues remain regarding gentrification in Harlem. August 16, 1987 Harlem's Hedge Against Gentrification By LISA W. FODERARO It is not the first struggle over the gentrification of Harlem and it certainly won't be the last, but new battle lines in the war were drawn last week when David N. Dinkins, the Manhattan... [more]
Response by anonymous
over 18 years ago
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Sorry, some things change. Globalization and the supremacy of global capitalism for one...and two. Manhattan's buyer market is significantly more global than it ever was. The demand for prime Manhattan real estate is only going to trend steadily upwards albeit with blips (since real estate is still an asset class) - same as Central London. There is a ton of newly minted and soon to be minted Russian, Chinese, Indian, Brazilian, Ukrainian, Nigerian multi-millionaires for whom a holiday home/family-home-while-the-kids-are-abroad-in-college can only be in Manhattan or Central London. This means that every inch of the island will keep bearing an influx of progressively priced out $400k, $300k, $200k salary earners bidding up and gentrifying as they go. Harlem is not going to be the UES any time soon but will start to look more and more attractive to more and more of the nay sayers - where New Jersey, Queens and Staten Island are the alternatives left.

The same thing is playing out in London - Central London is priced over most ordinary people's heads (ordinary includes the poor sods who earn a paltry GBP 200k a year). Neighbourhoods from Brixton, Clapham, Ladbroke Grove have gentrified to the point that they are bordering on equally unaffordable. Why? Because similarly there are those aforementioned poor sods who would cling by the teeth to an address that remains in Zone 1 or Zone 2.

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Response by anonymous
over 18 years ago
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Exactly. The people moving to Harlem now are not doing so for altruistic reasons. They look around and see what their money can buy downtown, run, look in Westchester, shake their heads in disbelief at the Stepfordesque setup, and then start looking tentatively in Harlem and Brooklyn.

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Response by anonymous
over 18 years ago
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The problem is that the prices in Harlem (especially on Fifth)are no bargains. You might get a little less space, but you can still buy in an established (but not "hot") neighborhood, beneath 96th street for the same price or less. Why take the chance with your hard earned dollars? Believe me , I have checked it out and think that a little less space in Murray Hill or East End Ave. might be a better investment. Also, I do still worry about the safety issue.

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Response by anonymous
over 18 years ago
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#4, I checked it out too, but decided on buying in Harlem (in Mt. Morris area). I got a LOT more space for my buck than I would have gotten in Murray Hill and the like, and since I'm near the 4, 5, 6, 2, 3 subways and Madison and Fifth Ave buses, I'm not sweating the safety issue. Just another perspective.

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