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Mortgage rates

Started by 875gator
about 15 years ago
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Doesn't look like much movement with 30 year rates after the Fed's decision. Is it coming down or was it baked in already?
Response by inonada
about 15 years ago
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Gator, your best bet is to look at the treasury yield curve and how it moves as mortgages are tightly linked to these. I think there's a lag between treasuries and mortgage rates. I.e., the quote you're going to get from the broker at 1pm vs. 3pm is probably the same despite moves in treasuries.

A good source for daily treasury rates is the Fed:

http://www.treas.gov/offices/domestic-finance/debt-management/interest-rate/yield.shtml

If you want to know the minute-by-minute reaction to the announcement, check out an intraday source like Yahoo finance. Ten-year rates moved up 0.1% in reaction to the announcement, 30-year rates close to 0.2%. I'll leave prognostications about what this movement meant relative to what information was baked in to the talking heads on CNBC.

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Response by dcorreale
about 15 years ago
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Good question...I am currently floating, and it went from 4.5, we pay 1/4 pt on Monday to 4.5 they pay us .125 yesterday. My plan is to continue to float for the next couple of weeks; will probably lock in if it gets to 4.25 without points. Would love to hear others opinions

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Response by 875gator
about 15 years ago
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I locked into 4.25 for a 30 no points but wonder if it will want to go for a one time float down before we close.

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Response by kylewest
about 15 years ago
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I'm being told a Manhattan co-op jumbo is available for 4.375%

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Response by LookPied
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I'm thinking of locking 15 year fixed 3.5% no points. 10 yr t-bill is falling currently. Does this mean 15 year fixed will be lower tomorrow? How far must t-bill yield fall to cause a .25 fall in 15 yr rate? Is it 1 to 1?

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Response by 875gator
about 15 years ago
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A lot of good questions on here. I haven't seen a marked decrease on mortgage rates yet and it sounds like the Fed isn't doing much with 30 years so maybe a standard 30 year fixed will stay around 4.25%. Shorter term mortgages may be the ones to decline.

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Response by deanc
about 15 years ago
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@Kylewest - who did you get 4.25 from?

Best offer we've had this week for $488k on $700k co-op with 735credit is 4.5% from Citi

I keep hearing there are better rates but seems not for co-ops or not in NY etc when you make the calls and dig through the BS.

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Response by pippin
about 15 years ago
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can someone recommend a few of the better places to obtain a jumbo mortgage? I am primarily thinking about a 5/1 arm, interest only mortgage, but would consider other options.

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Response by 875gator
about 15 years ago
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Locked in a 30 year fixed at 4.25% w/ BofA Excellent credit, condo in NYC.

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Response by lovetocook
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Deanc I'm buying a co op and haven't locked. My mortgage broker said I could have 4.25 if I go for 20 day lock and close wit in 20 days

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Response by lovetocook
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30 years fixed no points

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Response by kylewest
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@ deanc: 4.375--not 4.25%. It is a broker I know at GFI. I am about to re-fi. Actually signing papers tonight and sending them over tomorrow. If you want me to refer you, post your email and I'll get you the info for the contact.

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Response by LookPied
about 15 years ago
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Just to answer my own question above:

The falling 10 year t-bill yield yesterday did not translate into a lower 15 year fixed mortgage rate as rates were slightly higher today. The rate held steady for 0 points (3.5%) but the buy down for a 3.375% rate rose from .25 pts to .375 pts. It seems the rates are set from where the t-bill is trading (or projected to trade) in the morning of the day the rates are set. And it obviuosly doesn't fluctuate 1:1.

If anyone can shed light on the process of setting mortgage rates I'd love to hear it!

Anyway, I locked at 3.375% with .375 discount points for 15 year fixed (TBI Mortgage)

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Response by 875gator
about 15 years ago
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I can see how the shorter term rates may change but can't guess at what will happen to the 30 year mortgage rates

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Response by deanc
about 15 years ago
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i locked in with citi this afternoon at 4.375% 30 year fixed for 488k 700valuation 735credit

i still think i locked in too early but happy to get it over with as coming from a 7% 3 year fixed and only had 6 months to run.

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