Hotel and homeless shelter on W 25th St?
Started by chris149
almost 15 years ago
Posts: 7
Member since: Feb 2010
Discussion about 107 West 25th Street in Chelsea
You can stay at the homeless shelter for free, but it'll cost you to stay at the hotel. What other info do you need?
This was already an ugly, gritty street in a building with an ugly, gritty lobby (more a vestibule) and nasty elevatory. It has virtually no amenities and the maintenance is high given there is not a doorman or appealing public spaces. The roof may be nice--I never saw it. There are no views from the south side. Don't recall the north. If you are turned on by the keyed-elevator and loft-like apartments that are selling for 20-25% less than at peak, it could be right for you though. It is not for someone who wants luxury for $1MM/$1500 maintenance for essentially a large one-bedroom apartment. It is for someone who likes the idea of coming through the grit and grayness of the surrounding street and public space to emerge into their own large haven. Homeless anything isn't going to help this already grim street.
As the exclusive broker for #4C at 107 W 25th Street I would urge potential purchasers to come and view this beautiful loft for yourself to draw your own conclusions. Loft spaces being originally industrial spaces usually find themselves on industrial streets especially north of Soho. West 25th Street between 6th and 7th Aves is very similar to those a few blocks north and south except for the Antique Shops, Luxury Hotel and the Whole Foods Market at the end of the block. This building has video security, an amazing open landscaped roof deck, passenger and freight keyed elevators, bike room, extra storage lockers, and is very well maintained. #4C is approximately 1300sf and is configured as a 2 bedroom but can be easily converted into a 3 bedroom. Come and see this beautiful boutique loft and building for yourself!
With regard to the new facility (shelter) to run by the BRC (Bowery Residents Committee), I would suggest anyone concerned about this issue to walk around the neighborhood where the other BRC location has been for decades, NOHO -(Bowery and Bleecker), to see all of the new development of hotels, condominiums, and trendy restaurants that have flourished around them especially in the last 15 years.
Maybe on the neighborhood, but this block specifically is a problem. Its a MEGA homeless shelter, and the block itself was already run down more so than other blocks in the neighborhood.
> the other BRC location has been for decades,
This is a consolidation on *multiple* locations.
Want me to point out the other areas with homeless shelters that didn't gentrify like the bowery? (where much of the gentrification came from those places LEAVING)?
HELLO! It's Chelsea. It's not Gramercy Park. It's a LOFT building ... in a commercially-zoned neighborhood.
If being on the same block as homeless people really bothers you that much, you're probably not cut out for city living.
Yes, please point out the other areas with homeless shelters that didn't gentrify like the Bowery ... I'd like to know which they are.
3 open houses in this building a couple weekends ago... and now further price drops. I think some families are bailing from the street...
Post article I found...
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/chelsea_shelter_disgust_6AgDq71bEL1ZPspiIIyGkM
"If being on the same block as homeless people really bothers you that much, you're probably not cut out for city living. "
I've liven in NYC pretty much all of my life.... pretening this is par for the course on the block one lives on... in a fairly pricey neighborhood... isn't very logical.
i understand that the shelter and the offices have not been opened as a result of litigation on the zoning and the proposed activities. any updates on the topic of the litigation?
Read the article... they did open. And they've still got a lot more capacity.
The litigation lost... no injunction. It opened.
There are also a several sex offenders being housed nearby at 127 West 25, and other adrresses on the street.
Input the address into familywatchdog.us and see for yourself.
"I've liven in NYC pretty much all of my life.... pretening this is par for the course on the block one lives on... in a fairly pricey neighborhood... isn't very logical."
Depends on the neighborhood. If we're talking Park Avenue in the 70s, then no it's not very logical to be upset about a homeless shelter opening up on your block.
But if you choose to drop millions on an apartment in a mixed use neighborhood like Chelsea, then yes it's perfectly logical to say that if you're upset by living within a block of the homeless you're not cut out for city living.
At least, you're not cut out for living in that PART of the city.
Re-reading my post ... forgive the confusion ... I meant to say "If we're talking Park Avenue in the 70s, then yes it's perfectly logical to be upset about a homeless shelter opening up on your block."
Sorry for all the double negatives. I was trying to address somewhereelse's statement as accurately as possible.
If you're someone who thinks of Chelsea as the kind of place that is expected to have mega homeless shelters... one wonders if you've lived in NYC in the last decade...
Or pretty much expecting anywhere south of 96th street that isn't under an overpass to have regular masturbation and defacation public exercises...
So you're saying there shouldn't be any homeless shelters south of 96th street?
I wouldn't move onto a block with a homeless shelter. I used to live on a long block with a soup kitchen. It was a real drag. Many of the homeless served there were mentally ill. They loitered on the block all day long. Some shouted crazy things, some just sat on the parked cars (so I couldn't park mine there anymore), one occasionally waived his penis at passing women. I was not the mere presence of a homeless person that was a problem--it was the concentration of them and the evident accompanying mental illnesses that made it objectionable. I have no idea what the answer is, or where the shelters ought to be. My only observation is that I would never again want to live next to or across from one of these things. If I had kids I would feel doubly strong.
kylewest
about 1 hour ago
stop ignoring this person
report abuse I wouldn't move onto a block with a homeless shelter. I used to live on a long block with a soup kitchen. It was a real drag. Many of the homeless served there were mentally ill. They loitered on the block all day long. Some shouted crazy things, some just sat on the parked cars (so I couldn't park mine there anymore), one occasionally waived his penis at passing women. I was not the mere presence of a homeless person that was a problem--it was the concentration of them and the evident accompanying mental illnesses that made it objectionable. I have no idea what the answer is, or where the shelters ought to be. My only observation is that I would never again want to live next to or across from one of these things. If I had kids I would feel doubly strong.
roosevelt island?
>jordyn
about 3 hours ago
ignore this person
report abuse So you're saying there shouldn't be any homeless shelters south of 96th street?
What is the rationale for homeless shelters in that area?
hunter: not sure if that is addressed to me. I said very clearly I am not advocating any change or rule in laws or zoning. All I'm saying is that I have a choice about where to live and I choose not to subject myself to the situation described. If someone asked me if the presence of such a facility in very close proximity to a potential home ought to be a factor in their decision about buying, I would say absolutely. That's all. Firehouses must exist. Hospital ERs. Garbage transfer stations, Major tourist attractions. Tunnel entrances and exits. I just don't want to live near those things if I can help it. Those who think a homeless shelter is just great and part of the wonderful tapestry that is NYC are free to take up residence next door to one.
FWIW, we live fairly near the former location of the BRC facility and they have been very good neighbors.