Elena Barskaya Astoria Rentals...Stay Away!

Unfortunately she has been advertising my listings on here. I hope everyone is very careful of her unethical practices.

This is nothing new. I remember the clowns that used to set up an office, charge a fee and then give a list of alleged available apartments which were bogus. The attorney general and courts got in on that one and closed them down. To show bogus listings, she needs to meet the new client to show it? She's cunning, but not that bright. Someone will have her arrested.

stupid criminals are such a dissapointment

Interestingly enough, Elena Barskaya has posted to the SE discussion board in the past. I'm interested in seeing her replies to this thread.

i remember her too. come and fight back elena!

NYC Renter:

What you're describing sounds like grand larceny. Contact the Queens District
Attorney. But be very accurate with your facts. Filing a false police complaint
can itself constitute a felony.

Here we go folks! I just find this a tad bit ironic.

barskaya
about 2 years ago
ignore this person
report abuse -" Explicitly confirm that the person you're dealing with is not a broker"

newbuyer99, if it's a broker, it should be stated in the add, or it's a false representation.

Let me ask you this: Would you pay to a broker let's say $500 fee if he shows you an apartment with one month free rent?

elena
(broker)

I'm sure one month free rent never entered into the deal that NYCRenter588 got.

NYCRenter588, this might sound like a stupid question, but are you sure you were EVER actually dealing with Elena Barskaya, and not just a scammer using her name? Did you pay in cash or check or what?

Alan:

Good point

>Contact the Queens District Attorney.

Contact the police, not the DA. "the police who investigate crimes, and the district attorney who prosecutes the offenders..."

Two roommates came to view the place, told me they have a third one, filled out an application, left a $550 deposit to take apartment off the market. Told me they are all coming for signing on a weekend and never showed up for signing. Never even bothered to call and reschedule.
If you call me half a month later, why are you surprise that it is rented to someone else?

The application clearly states that deposit takes apartment off the market until owner approves or declines the tenant. Potential tenants have to sign for it.
http://i.imgur.com/BPUHL.jpg
If tenant is declined - money returned.
if approved, but fail to show up for signing - he/she/they losing the deposit.

Francesca Messina (one who started this thread), called me 30 times from 10.30-11.30 pm, demanding deposit back. I met with her and ws told that she is leaving with boyfriend's family in New York. That other roommates are irresponsible (one went on vacation, another quit on them). That $550 is a big money for her.
I felt bad for a girl that just out of college started a new job and trying to make it in New York, so I returned her $350. The rest $200 was mailed to a landlord.
Attached is a copy of the letter Francesca signed about receiving part of her deposit back.
http://i.imgur.com/1Aa4v.jpg
Now, I am in the business for long time, most of it is referral. I did not put my name on the front door to compromise it. But I can't control other's people irresponsibility.
Sorry.
The copy of application, letter , ets… was mailed to the Department of state, as I had to respond to complaint filed against my company. They had no further questions.

To tell you all the truth - it has been first complaint against my company since it formad in 2007. I much more often resceive Thank You letters. :)
Something like this
http://i.imgur.com/Zu0v7.jpg

Well, that is all interesting, but it is fucking unethical, if not illegal, its WRONG to make someone pay the deposit BEFORE you accept them as a tenant. I have NEVER heard of such a practice. You only pay the deposit once you pass the background check! You sound like s shrill, souless bitch for steering people to apartments with such scumbag landlords.

Jason, name calling has no place here. And your version of what is right and wrong widely varies from standard practice in this city.

Is that standard practice in NYC? I've dealt with Elliman, Bellmarc, Corcoran, and Sotheby's and never heard of this.

Really, the right thing to do is to return the money and you have a client that will trust you for their next deal. It's about building relationships, not to take a mere $200 from someone who may not be able to afford it. I understand a contract is a contract, but you could have received much more than this amount in future goodwill. I think you deserve this scorn. I won't be looking for you for my RE needs anytime soon.

I'm kind of torn, this doesn't seem right, but Elena seems nice, and on the other hand, jason10006 is the biggest critic, but Jason is from California.

Elena, I'm glad you posted to defend yourself here. If what you say is true, it sounds to me like you went beyond what was required of you in this case. And you kick ass for posting the documents that back up what you said.

That said, I am open to hearing Francesca's response.

I take back any criticism I had of Elena. When I looked at this thread before, I didn't scroll back to read the longer posting yesterday, only the shorter posting at 8:37 and Jason's subsequent loud mouthed cursing. Seconding inonada, Elena seems like she's in the right here. Although landlords have the upper hand and brokers second to that, there are tons of bad tenants and prospective tenants in this city.

Binders to hold apartments off the market are standard and not in any manner
unethical or sleazy. The funds in question are intended to compensate LLs for
rent lost holding a property for someone who then doesnt take it.

if the paperwork that elena has included here is accurate & legal than she was not sleazy or unethical. cmon now shes gonna ruin her reputation over 200$. Dont be fooled by all that is posted in these threads. i will say to u Elena.....even negative advertising is good advertising. there are millions of examples of that truth. sooooo at least ur name is on peoples tongues!!!

The last apartment I took (in Manhattan) required a deposit to take it off the market until approval went through. The comfort it gave me was the implicit agreement that the LL wouldn't then accept a higher offer from another prospective tenant. (I say agreement rather than contract because I'm trying to frame this in ethical not legal terms)

When I moved to NYC to go to b-school, the NYU off-housing campus guide said NEVER pay more than $100 for an apartment application, and NEVER put a deposit down unless you actually have the place full stop. Literally it says otherwise its a scam. Even when I was an out of state (at the time) student with no income, no LL asked me to pay the deposit BEFORE I had the apartment. Its sleazy and unethical and this woman and her LL deserve to be called names.

NYU business school is your life's accomplishment and you are calling other people names?

In every apartment I've rented, I've needed to put down some type of deposit beyond the application fee to take the apartment off the market. In some cases, it has even been a full one month's rent security deposit payable only by certified check. The check is then cashed as soon as the credit check gets approved. I've always had a spotless employment history, 800+ credit score, etc., so I don't think it's anything about me that's triggering this requirement.

The only time I objected is when a landlord was collecting multiple deposits and/or refusing to take the apartment off the market by accepting a deposit. E.g., I was at an open house where the landlords were accepting from multiple applicants a $35 nonrefundable application fee + a $700 "potentially refundable" deposit. All applications would be considered, regardless of the order in which they were submitted, and the landlords would take 3-4 days to decide, during which time a prospective tenant would lose their $700 deposit by backing out. After 3-4 days, the deposit of any prospective tenant not offered the apartment would be returned.

I was stunned that anyone would consider the above arrangement, but we saw at least five people give them applications and checks. The apartment was nice, but not that nice or well-priced.... Although this had "scam" written all over it, I did a lot of checking and it turned out to be legit. But, regardless, it wasn't for us. The rental market moves too fast for me to give up a whole weekend of looking to wait on people who use arbitrary criteria to decide.

All of that said, I think paying a deposit that's nonrefundable if you pass the credit check in order to take the apartment off the market has some benefits for both the tenants and the landlord, and I've always been happy to do it.

In a western state where a friend is a landlord, this is common (on standardized application/lease forms), and is called "earnest money". It's not a place where multiple offers to rent are common, so what lad described wouldn't happen.

when you rent a condo or coop in this city you are required to pay all funds in advance of approval. what's the difference? the tenant isn't actually approved until a third party says so.

huntersburg....now i c why u are ignored. u must be a wall street criminal & wanna be playboy. if ur a woman then u def have penis.

Helphome, we seem to be in agreement on Elena. So did I insult Bib Purple that daddy helped pay you to go to?

Big Purple. But perhaps Bib Purple is another good name for NYU.

Why are you talking to someone that's ignored--especially when you've already figured out why?

Jordyn, name one person who is ignoring me.

I am with inonada on this, for what it's worth. I've rented in NYC for well over a decade, from many landlords, in many circumstances, with all sorts of arrangements. The key point here is that the deal was CLEARLY AND EXPLICITLY explained to Francesca - she knew exactly what she was signing up for, so I don't see how she can complain when something she signed up for actually happened.

She (a) didn't bother showing up or calling, (b) called Elena 30 times late in the evening and (c) attempted to anonymously slander her on a message board. Further, if Elena's telling of the story is accurate, then Francesca flat out lied in her description. Finally, after Elena posted her version of the story (with supporting documents), Francesca has not replied since. Seems pretty clear to me...

As a random data point, I dealt with Elena several years ago, and didn't have any issues or complaints.

"when you rent a condo or coop in this city you are required to pay all funds in advance of approval. what's the difference? the tenant isn't actually approved until a third party says so."

The difference is that you have a legally binding lease contract: they payments are consummating the lease contract. The lack of condo / coop approval can trigger an escape clause, which is controlled by a third party with different interests and consequences for not approving (like having to rent the place themselves in the case of condos). While a landlord holding a deposit can withhold approval for any reason (like someone willing to pay 10% more), a condo approval doesn't care. Leases also endow a different legal standing to the tenant-to-be.

If you don't understand, try collecting multiple leases & money for a condo and see the shitstorm that ensues.

brokers... lol... In general, I have more respect for the rats that look for their scraps in the subway.

nada, leases might as well be used for toiled paper until they're countersigned. And if YOU don't understand that, then perhaps you should stick to commenting on a finance board or something.

Asking for a deposit is a great way to figure out if they tenants really want they apartment or not. I've asked for deposits and I've not asked for deposits. But if I ask for a deposit and they client says no, I won't put the application through. I'm not wasting my or my landlords time (or money) processing ppwk on people who don't show a commitement to the transaction.
I'd also never take a deposit and not give it back even if they did change their mind, but they don't know that at the time.

"nada, leases might as well be used for toiled paper until they're countersigned. And if YOU don't understand that, then perhaps you should stick to commenting on a finance board or something."

No shit, genius. That's why at the top of every condo board application's list of required documents is a copy of the FULLY EXECUTED lease agreement: they won't consider the application without it. I don't hand any checks over until I have a counter-signed copy in my hands, before the application is submitted. Some fucknut brokers try to do it backwards, you just have to put them in their place. It's all there in black-and-white, it's as if they've never bothered reading any of the paperwork they're handling. They think that somehow by not giving a copy of the countersigned lease to the tenant before approval, they're going to be saved from a subpoena served to the condo board.

Sadly, I you don't understand all THAT, then you most certainly belong in the NY brokerage community.

you guys should get together

inonada
about 4 hours ago "nada, leases might as well be used for toiled paper until they're countersigned. And if YOU don't understand that, then perhaps you should stick to commenting on a finance board or something."

No shit, genius. That's why at the top of every condo board application's list of required documents is a copy of the FULLY EXECUTED lease agreement: they won't consider the application without it. I don't hand any checks over until I have a counter-signed copy in my hands, before the application is submitted. Some fucknut brokers try to do it backwards, you just have to put them in their place. It's all there in black-and-white, it's as if they've never bothered reading any of the paperwork they're handling. They think that somehow by not giving a copy of the countersigned lease to the tenant before approval, they're going to be saved from a subpoena served to the condo board.

Sadly, I you don't understand all THAT, then you most certainly belong in the NY brokerage community.

shit genius? have i upset you nada?

EVERY condo application? that's fairly broad.

Look douchbag, cause you've rented a few aparments and (so you say) somehow have always gotten things to go your way doens't make you anything other than a loud mouthed wannabe knot it all loser. No one has ever asked me for the landlords countersigned copy of a lease before turning over checks. EVER. So fuck you.

James displaying those fine people skills that allow him to excel as a broker.

MidtownerVirgin, Jim might be able to get you out of your "smallish 1 bedroom in midtown east" for something more stylish.

"Building Wealth Through Renting
By DAVID LEONHARDT

I replied:

Yes, building equity is a good thing. But the advantages of it are exaggerated.

For one thing, how do you know you’ll be building equity, as opposed to making an investment that will lose money? People who bought in Florida, Las Vegas, Phoenix and much of inland California in 2006 thought they would be building equity. I interviewed some of them. But they did not. In many cases, they lost all of their equity. There is definitely some downside risk in the New York market today.

Second, by buying a house, you’re making a decision to tie up your capital in a specific sector — real estate. It’s entirely possible that the money you spent on a down payment would have earned more money in the stock market, for instance.

Finally, buying also involves throwing thousands of dollars down a hole: in mortgage fees and interest, in property taxes, in repairs and renovations, in tens of thousands of dollars of closing costs. Renting doesn’t involve the huge up-front costs that buying does. Owning also involves some continuing costs (e.g. repairs) that renting does not.

Living somewhere is always going to involve costs, just as education, health care and food involve costs. Financially, the decision to buy is basically a decision that your investment will increase in value by an amount sufficient to make up for all the additional costs of buying. (Put it this way: you’d never buy an apartment if you were staying in a city for just a week, in an effort to build equity. You’d rent — a hotel room.)

Sometimes — often — the decision to buy works out. But it does not work out far more often than is commonly understood."

Well, it sounds like this practice is more common than I thought. It seems crazy to me, however, that the "welcome to NY" housing guides I got at both b-school and my subsequent jobs said specifically NOT to do this and that it was a scam.

All those "welcome to New York" guides that you've been repeatedly handed are basically our way of saying that you aren't a New Yorker and you never will be. But at least you aren't a dirty ape living on west 67th street.

"No one has ever asked me for the landlords countersigned copy of a lease before turning over checks. EVER. So fuck you."

You must be a key-sherpa for some real shit places then. If you ever make it to the big leagues, you'll understand. It'll be a polite version of "No dumbass, I ain't handing you certified checks totaling more than you take home all year without a lease just because your ignorant ass thinks that's how it works. Read the fuckin' lease." But you won't read the lease, you'll just say "OK, sorry sir" because you just want your fee. Or you can act uppity, never make it in the big leagues, and continue living in your crap apt in the boonies.

James Hones, Key Sherpa. Has a nice ring to it.

MidtownerVirgin, inonada is a sharp guy, he doesn't need a parrot sidekick who lives in a smallish 1 bedroom rental in midtown east. Stick to looking for that elusive full time paralegal job.

Nada, Mr. UWS calling where I live the boonies? I'd say it's funny if I didn't know you actually think that. I've worked across many price points, including some that would empty a lot of trust funds pretty fast. The market determines who calls the shots. Right now you're "negotiating" would leave you saying "what the fuck" as someone who knew when to just shut up and play ball was planning a move into your first choice apt.
But keep kidding yourself.

but you're still riding the fucking bus.

Hey, btw, does anyone know if the helicopter service to Kennedy means that you can avoid the whole check in procedure for an international flight? I've got a trip planned and have been debating the merits vs a car service.

Wow, cc, thanks for saying hi. has your dr cleared up your paranoid pyschosis yet? How soon before you start calling me someone else?

"including some that would empty a lot of trust funds pretty fast"

Trust funds are for losers. The only guy I've known to have one is a quadriplegic friend who donated it all when he was 18. Is that how you're swinging your rent these days?

But you do have a point. One advantage of living in the hinterlands is that the helipad is nearby. I wonder when they're going to open a helipad in central park. Oh wait, helipads are for the shit hoods where dumbass bigmouth brokers live. So I guess you win: your proximity to the helipad will save you time. Better yet, why don't you move to JFK and just live the big life directly in the big kahuna itself?

And no buddy, I don't live in the UWS. Nevertheless, you hood is the boonies compared to that hood. Strollers and frumpy dress and all, it still commands a 50% premium to your neck of the woods. That's the market calling the shots for you.

BTW, if I'm hurting your feelings let me know and I'll stop. No fun brawling with some kid who's gonna go off crying later.

inonada
about 7 hours ago "including some that would empty a lot of trust funds pretty fast"

Trust funds are for losers. The only guy I've known to have one is a quadriplegic friend who donated it all when he was 18. Is that how you're swinging your rent these days?

But you do have a point. One advantage of living in the hinterlands is that the helipad is nearby. I wonder when they're going to open a helipad in central park. Oh wait, helipads are for the shit hoods where dumbass bigmouth brokers live. So I guess you win: your proximity to the helipad will save you time. Better yet, why don't you move to JFK and just live the big life directly in the big kahuna itself?

And no buddy, I don't live in the UWS. Nevertheless, you hood is the boonies compared to that hood. Strollers and frumpy dress and all, it still commands a 50% premium to your neck of the woods. That's the market calling the shots for you.

BTW, if I'm hurting your feelings let me know and I'll stop. No fun brawling with some kid who's gonna go off crying later.

ok nada, you win. battery park? i know you live somewhere that sucks that has upper in it's name.

haha i do get a kick out of hunter. your handle suits u. hunter...hunting the pages of SE for a chance to exercise your sarcastic tongue. but you do make me laugh which is why i unhide your comments...& in response to bip purple...no daddy of mine paid for any kind of business school. dont confuse me w the spoiled brats that frequent these chats. again, i will say that your sarcasm does inspire me so.

JJ as far as the helicopter vs. car service stance...u r joking right??? were u trying to impress us w your jet setting?? i personally think you should consider a skateboard.... just make sure to ride against traffic.

helphome
4 minutes ago
ignore this person
report abuse JJ as far as the helicopter vs. car service stance...u r joking right??? were u trying to impress us w your jet setting?? i personally think you should consider a skateboard.... just make sure to ride against traffic.

not a joke. but i guess that means you don't know? wouldnt it be nice to get a quicker ride to jfk especially if it mean you don't need to do the whole check in thing? but i guess if it's so far beyond your means it isn't something you every actually think about right helphome?

inonada
about 9 hours ago
ignore this person
report abuse "including some that would empty a lot of trust funds pretty fast"

Trust funds are for losers. The only guy I've known to have one is a quadriplegic friend who donated it all when he was 18. Is that how you're swinging your rent these days?

But you do have a point. One advantage of living in the hinterlands is that the helipad is nearby. I wonder when they're going to open a helipad in central park. Oh wait, helipads are for the shit hoods where dumbass bigmouth brokers live. So I guess you win: your proximity to the helipad will save you time. Better yet, why don't you move to JFK and just live the big life directly in the big kahuna itself?

And no buddy, I don't live in the UWS. Nevertheless, you hood is the boonies compared to that hood. Strollers and frumpy dress and all, it still commands a 50% premium to your neck of the woods. That's the market calling the shots for you.

BTW, if I'm hurting your feelings let me know and I'll stop. No fun brawling with some kid who's gonna go off crying later.

i really can't believe that you are justifying one neighborhood choice over another based on price? paying more to live somewhere worse (and by every definition much more remote) makes one stupid. so i guess you win that prize after all.

You don't even know where I live, genius. On the one hand you claim how all will bow down to the almighty market, on the other you can't take what it dishes out to you. Yeah, everyone on the UWS is stupid for paying not to live next to the helipad on 34th with the proximity it affords to JFK. You've got it all figured out.

Had a friend who used to say how it'd be great if he were attracted to ugly girls. Low competition, he'd be happy, they'd be happy, it'd be wonderful. But he just wasn't.

your quadraplegic friend liquidated all the assets his parents had set aside to fund his future care at the retarded, irrational age of 18, and gave it away? that sounds self destructive and sad. did he commit suicide later? because that's where that course ends.

the thing about ugly girls is they do ok with ugly guys.

Are we talking ugly on the inside?

of course not, everyone knows ugly people are really really nice

No, everyone knows that beautiful princesses are the nicest people in the world, and ugly witches are mean. This fact is supported by the literature ... in fact, by some of the first literature my little kid sister learned to read, once upon a time. So it's a primary fact.

Nonetheless, if you want to be happy for the rest of your life, make an ugly woman your wife. [yeah, but she sure can cook]

beautiful princesses are the most clueless and spoiled people in the world, which often does make them the nicest, because everyone is nice to them and their lives are easy and pretty. uglies have to struggle, they're more complex.

Nada, mentioning a helipad means that I live near it? Maybe my highfloor view affords me a view that you couldn't dream of.

Nada, you're supposedly a rich banker piece of shit. Tell me, chopper to jfk, any merit to it?

"your quadraplegic friend liquidated all the assets his parents had set aside to fund his future care at the retarded, irrational age of 18, and gave it away? that sounds self destructive and sad. did he commit suicide later? because that's where that course ends"

The horrible parents blessed (& daresay were proud) of his decision. No wonder -- they had filled his head with stories like this growing up:

"In 210 BC, a Chinese commander named Xiang Yu led his troops across the Yangtze River to attack the army of the Qin (Ch'in) dynasty. Pausing on the banks of the river for the night, his troops awakened in the morning to find, to their horror, that their ships were burning. They hurried to their feet to fight off the attackers, but soon discovered that it was Xiang Yu himself who had set their ships on fire... With their ships gone, the soldiers had no route of retreat. Winning was the only option."

Unfortunately, he's become quite the disappointment & we're all just dreading to hear the news of him driving his wheelchair off a cliff. Finished high school in 3 years, went to a top undergrad school & finished that in 3 years too, then went on to a PhD at the same school. Since then, he's schlupped about earning what is no doubt a 6-figure salary, has done entrepreneurial ventures, etc. I know, anything less than 7-figures is a failure to you & I. He's had a number of girlfriends over the years (the couple I'm specifically aware of were not disabled), but alas is unmarried & still working the field. The stupid guy even gave up being driven around because he decided to start driving himself.

The guy can't cut up his own food, but he's driving. God bless America!

"Tell me, chopper to jfk, any merit to it?"

Don't know, never considered it, but I don't travel much (just vacations, no work). It seems to me like it doesn't save that much time unless you live nearby. You still have to travel through Manhattan, and the hassle of coordinating the timing & adding another leg to a trip to save 10 or 20 minutes doesn't sound pleasant. If you're going to, say, Nantucket where it's a huge pain to go by car+ferry or by car+plane, then it seems interesting.

"Maybe my highfloor view affords me a view that you couldn't dream of."

Probably not: my current place has the view thing pretty much covered.

>The guy can't cut up his own food, but he's driving. God bless America!

Elena, I hope yopu are proud of yourself. For $200, this is what has ensued.

But you can't seem to fathom not actually living near something (helipad for example) and still being able to see it (or even conceptualize of it).

Views across dark alleys at underage girls isn't really what people had in mind nada, you dirty old bastard.

haha ur a real phony JJ....Sorry to break it to u, but ur rhetorical question about whether or not a helicopter is more / less convenient was so transparently bogus that it simply came across to me as being show offy & quite honestly ridiculous. obviously its nothing you have ever done b4 so why now ....cuz its sooo difficult to check in at jfk.????r we talking about the same airport. heres an idea.. ...how about you just charter a private jet to wherever it is your headed & avoid the transfer all together. & yeah ur right i always dreamed of being able to take a chopper to jfk its just a wet f ing dream. even if i had all ur money id rather take the skateboard.

not sure the moral of that tale. we can't all be overachieving quadriplegics. the parents sound too soft, they should have told him tales of soviet officers shooting their own soldiers for retreating or being captured. *that* is how you mold them.

Helphome, you're right, it isn't anything I've done before. I'm a busy and impatient person. If I can save time at check in (clearly you don't travel internationally or you"d feel the same way (unless your time, like your life is essentially valueless.
I'll admit that private jet travel isn't within my means as a regular thing---how's that for humble?

Guess I'll have to google to get my answer.

"pier45
2 days ago

Jason, name calling has no place here."

LOL. That worked!!! These last few posts are just like Real Houswives!!!!

hones, if you are a regular international traveller as you clearly imply you would know that check-in is typically a non-issue - period.

jimboner thinks that cleveland is an international destination.

Rangersfan, maybe on flights to ottawa. I'm going to a different hemispheres. Hey, are hockeyskates with their sharp blades allowed?

CC, never been. But from what I've heard, cleveland and say, the ivory coast would be a toss up.

"not sure the moral of that tale"

Moral #1: Overachievers, quadriplegic or not, don't care to be coddled in adulthood.

Moral #2: When someone tells you about the actions of a specific person they intimately know, blabbing your personal broad preconceived notions rather than asking questions might leave you with a foot stuck in your mouth.

Here's another tale. Some guy I knew from college years, we were at dinner with his sister and various friends. The guy was decent, but he had a serious superiority complex. He starts going on and on about how the waiter, what the hell kind of job is that, I mean where are you in life if you're just a waiter, can't he do more with his life, blah blah. One of the friends, who was a student at a top school that this guy didn't get into, says "Well, my father is a waiter and has been putting me through school". He tried to backtrack a bit, but then just wised up, apologized, and shut his mouth.

so your other friend is an asshole, it happens.

but let's see how these compare as personal broad preconceived notions, "Trust funds are for losers" vs "invalid kid who gives away all his money is probably in a bad place mentally". hmmm.

and who is this punk who's blabbing his preconceived notions all up in here? just point him out, i'll give him a piece of my mind.

so your other friend is an asshole, it happens.

but let's see how these compare as personal broad preconceived notions, "Trust funds are for losers" vs "invalid kid who gives away all his money is probably in a bad place mentally". hmmm.

and who is this punk who's blabbing his preconceived notions all up in here? just point him out, i'll give him a piece of my mind.

so your other friend is an asshole, it happens.

but let's see how these compare as personal broad preconceived notions, "Trust funds are for losers" vs "invalid kid who gives away all his money is probably in a bad place mentally". hmmm.

and who is this punk who's blabbing his preconceived notions all up in here? just point him out, i'll give him a piece of my mind.

hones, wrong. all the more reason you would have zero check-in issues with your exotic international travel. but that copter might save you 15mins for your flight to wichita.

hones, wrong. all the more reason you would have zero check-in issues with your exotic international travel. but that copter might save you 15mins for your flight to wichita.

This is the person, lucille: "beautiful princesses are the most clueless and spoiled people in the world, which often does make them the nicest, because everyone is nice to them and their lives are easy and pretty. uglies have to struggle, they're more complex."

deep

Rangersfan, tell the truth, do you even own a passport? How often do you actually travel west of the nassau border? Haven't met a hockey fan I like yet, or one that was well traveled.

so now west of nassau county is another hemisphere?

I used to think James was a fake persona, but his lack of understanding of north/east/south/west makes me think he might be a broker after all.

I think the rentalmongering troll was referring to Nassau County, New York ... in which case he has his cardinal points right. [insert terribly clever "cardinal" pun here]

Yes. Rangerfan equals long island trash. Nassau county is part of long island.

Or are you all so fucking dim and insular that none of you know that?

Do anyone of you realize that Manhattan is NYC is west of Nassau County or did I yet again teach all of you something?

wait...when you go west of nassau county, you first come into manhattan?

You were talking about flying internationally out of JFK, travel, and passports, James. We are not prescient enough to follow your random after-the-fact associations. For that, we need w67th.

ok Hones here it is for socially handicapped .....It will require a 1 bag maximum, its own security check (albeit a shorter one), & most importantly weather conducive to chopper flying. Now on the JFK end of things ...what happens next is that lay the red carpet & drop u off directly on the tarmac where 2 hot blondes will walk you the short distance from the chopper to the airliner ur flight is on. No added security for chopper riders. soooo if its the body scanner machine that has ur balls in a twist..no worries there also...just a gracious & thorough pat down from the same 2 hot blondes. Not bad for around 175$ wouldnt u say. btw...ur penis will appear larger after this experience. but u can always take a car service for a 45$ flat rate & do it like the millions of other NYers who travel overseas....but then none of the bigger penis perks...

eeewwww The Ivory Coast huh??? def take the chopper then.

>We are not prescient enough to follow your random after-the-fact associations. For that, we need w67th.

Right on, we need someone with animal sense.

hones you asswipe. my passport is thicker than the measly two hairs left on your fat head. if you really knew what you were talking about, check-in is of zero consequence for intl travel. yes, they tell you to get there two hours early - means squat. unless, of course some key sherpa is travelling cattle call to all of your made-up locations. what a moron.

oh, and the chopper - forget it. your comb over would be exposed faster than you could say the donald.