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Started by hurting
almost 15 years ago
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Hi, I am really in love with white countertops for our kitchen but have heard they may be impossible to keep clean/unstained. Any experience with this and recommendations for material? thanks.
Response by alanhart
almost 15 years ago
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silestone can survive a nucular bum, and requires no maintenance

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Response by kNA
almost 15 years ago
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Corian? Except it does stain from red substances.

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Response by omega
almost 15 years ago
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I have white caesarstone. It is fantastic - no concerns about stains.

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Response by BuiltINstudio
almost 15 years ago
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I would agree a Caesarstone or Silesstone is the way to go.

I have considered Glassos before, but honestly have not used it so I can't really recommend it yet...could be worth looking into, or maybe someone on here has experience with it.

http://www.ccsstone.com/nano.htm

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Response by generalogoun
almost 15 years ago
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My suggestion is to get a sample of each one you're considering and live with the samples in the kitchen for a few weeks. Dump ketchup, oil, lemon juice and wine on them and leave the stuff on for a few hours before cleaning. BTW, the best white manufactured quartz countertop I've ever seen is Absolute White from Okite (pronounced oh-kee-tay). Okite used to be hard to get, but now has opened up a U.S. distributor in Texas.

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Response by Primer05
almost 15 years ago
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I agree with most, Silestone and Caeserstone are the way to go. They can stain though and i believe should be sealed every year.It is much better then Marble and granite in that regard. Corian can stain but what I like about it is that you can sand it down and polish and it looks brand new.

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Response by NYCMatt
almost 15 years ago
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And white Formica is even more low-maintenance, as it requires no annual "sealing" or special cleaning.

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Response by hurting
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thank you all, good suggestions.

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Response by alanhart
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Primer05, what can stain Sileston or Caesarstone?

Formica is only "low-maintenance" because you can't fix it once it's easily ruined -- it gets cigarette burns, knife cuts and hot-pot marks all over it. Plus it delaminates.

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Response by NYCMatt
almost 15 years ago
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"Formica is only "low-maintenance" because you can't fix it once it's easily ruined -- it gets cigarette burns, knife cuts and hot-pot marks all over it."

So don't live like a pig. Stop burning it with cigarettes, use a cutting board, and pull out a trivet.

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"Plus it delaminates."

Maybe after 100 years.

My mother's 1965 formica still looks brand-new.

Of course, silly Mom doesn't smoke, uses cutting boards and trivets, and wipes up spills.

Go figure.

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Response by Primer05
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Alan,

I do not know the answer to that however I am starting a project at the Stark building at 15 Broad and they have a caesar stone counter and it is stained, we will be removing the stain and sealing.

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Response by Primer05
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One other thing,

If anyone has a stain on any existing stone there is a product that really works great. It is called Poultice. I would not use it yourself but tell your contractor.

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Response by needsadvice
almost 15 years ago
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I hate light counters. I recently replaced my formica with mottled granite, and I can't tell when the counters are dirty, so less cleaning.

I'm pretty sure they're filthy cesspools of salmonella, dirt and dried food, but if I can't see it, who cares? Wonderful product.

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Response by NYCMatt
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"I hate light counters. I recently replaced my formica with mottled granite, and I can't tell when the counters are dirty, so less cleaning.

I'm pretty sure they're filthy cesspools of salmonella, dirt and dried food, but if I can't see it, who cares? Wonderful product."

Ugh.

This is precisely why I prefer light counters with solid colours.

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Response by lucillebluth
almost 15 years ago
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ha. this is the reason i NEED an all white kitchen and ideally bathrooms.

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Response by alanhart
almost 15 years ago
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colors, Matthew, not colours.

Why do you care how dirty your Fourmica kitchen counter is if you always use cutting boards, ashtrays, trivets, etc.? And don't you keep them covered in vinyl slipcovers so they'll keep looking Fourmica-fabulous fourever?

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Response by NYCMatt
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No slipcovers necessary, Alan.

Just good old-fashioned common sense.

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Response by huntersburg
almost 15 years ago
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Alan, Matt, are you two married? For a long time?

That's the only explanation for the tenor of your arguments.

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Response by ues_shopper
almost 15 years ago
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We have white caesar stone counters with wenge cabinets. The counter
Has held up well for the past 5 years with no stains. Very durable! I wasnt aware that I needed
To seal it. What is used for this?

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Response by Primer05
almost 15 years ago
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Sealer is used for stone that is porous. The man made stones are not as porous as marble or granite and thats why you have no stains and you might never have them. With that said putting a coat of sealer on it would not hurt and can only help.

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Response by lad
almost 15 years ago
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White formica is a disaster waiting to happen, even for a neat-freak who uses a cutting board and wipes up spills quickly. I had in the four places I lived prior to this one. Something always inevitably stained it (a drop of red wine, an exploding espresso machine, a tiny splash of yellow curry), and the stain would set in fast. The heat from the dishwasher also caused the section above it to delaminate.

That said, what's with the focus on cigarette burns? Who the heck smokes at their kitchen counter? Hopefully no one whose house I'm eating at... That's gross and unsanitary.

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Response by huntersburg
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lad, the only topic on which NYCMatt and alanhart agree on is smoking.

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Response by nyc_real_estate
almost 15 years ago
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White manmade crystallized glass is stunning and virtually nonporous material
http://www.coveringsetc.com/detail.aspx?ID=480

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Response by NYCMatt
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Response by needsadvice
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"I hate light counters. I recently replaced my formica with mottled granite, and I can't tell when the counters are dirty, so less cleaning.

I'm pretty sure they're filthy cesspools of salmonella, dirt and dried food, but if I can't see it, who cares? Wonderful product."

Ugh.

This is precisely why I prefer light counters with solid colours."

@NYCMATT: This is precisely why we need some kind of icon that indicates a facetious comment.

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Response by lef2009
almost 15 years ago
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I am a great believer in 511 Impregnator from the Miracle Sealants Co. -- I think you can buy it at Home Depot. I've used it on granite and slate. I'll be using it on ceasarstone if I ever get to move into my new place.

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Response by nyclady9
almost 15 years ago
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I second the 511 Impregnator - works like a charm on my countertops.

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Response by PMG
almost 15 years ago
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511 impregnator is a stone sealer highly recommended by the guy who just honed and polished the marble in my bathroom. But the thing about Ceaserstone countertops is that they don't stain. They're not porous like natural stone. Just call the company. I don't suppose sealing them would be a problem, however, particularly if you are going for a "white" surface.

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Response by kylewest
almost 15 years ago
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Re Cesaerstone: I did an experiment when selecting a countertop. I got a sample of Cesaerstone (I think I used "Pebble"). Then I did everything to it that poses a risk to counters and natural stone: I put balsamic vinegar on it; red wine; mashed up raspberries on it; squeezed lemon juice and left the lemon on it. Then I set the sample aside for 24 hours. When I rinsed it off the next day, there was a slight shadow from one item--I think raspberries. I softly scrubbed with Bon Ami cleanser. Perfect. The sample looked indistinguishable from the control duplicate sample I had set aside the day before.

Now, after 2 years, the counter remains like the day it was installed. It is also fairly resistent to chipping because I've dropped some anodized aluminum Calphalon pots that weights a ton on occassion (only a couple of inches, but still...) and banged plates and whatnot at the edge around the undermount sink, and nothing has broken or chipped. I think the product is miraculous. And as modern as it is, it looks fantastic in my fairly classic-design kitchen.

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Response by buster2056
almost 15 years ago
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I used a danby marble - think it was the royal danby. It's more stain resistant than other marbles and granites. It's not perfect, but it's well worth it if you like marble.

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