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gas vs electric stove

Started by tommy2tone
almost 14 years ago
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I am thinking of putting a washing machine in one of my apartments, but given space limitations, I would have to move the stove. I would hate to have to move gas lines, so I'm wondering if electric stoves cost a lot more to operate than gas. I think I could save $20 a month just by cutting off gas supply.
Response by gcondo
almost 14 years ago
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Gas is usally included in common charges/maintenance. Electricity, you pay for directly. Unless you live in something that meters your use for each, why would you go electric? Plus, who doesnt love cooking on a gas stove? Dual fuel ftw?

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Response by Ottawanyc
almost 14 years ago
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When I look at a kitchen the first thing I look at is if it has a gas stove. Keep it if you can. People who actually cook hate electric.

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Response by Riversider
almost 14 years ago
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Gas cooks better is cheaper either if you pay direct and especially via common charges and it cooks better. But the #1 reason not to go electric is that an electric kitchen will be a negative when its time to sell.

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Response by nyc10023
almost 14 years ago
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1) You need to cap the gas, not just turn it off.
2) For rental, if it would get you more money to have an apt with washer as opposed to no washer, go for it. How many renters are you losing by going with electric stove?

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Response by Riversider
almost 14 years ago
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If we're talking high end two bedroom plus to a family that cooks, it's a turn-off. Families are not ordering in and eating out like they used to. That's how they save money and it's the only way to control what you put in your body.

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Response by Primer05
almost 14 years ago
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Tommy,

Why not just move the gas? Are you moving the kitchen to another part of the apartment?

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Response by 300_mercer
almost 14 years ago
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I have never met any one who prefers electric over gas - takes a while to warm up and you can easily tell how high the fire is. Also, electric stove is clearly more expensive as you pay for electricity but the building pays for gas.

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Response by 300_mercer
almost 14 years ago
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sorry typo:
I have never met any one who prefers electric over gas - takes a while to warm up and you can NOT easily tell how high the fire is. Also, electric stove is clearly more expensive as you pay for electricity but the building pays for gas.

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Response by kylewest
almost 14 years ago
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Gas is desirable. Electric is not. True for vast majority of people. Moving gas line is very easy and not terribly expensive if you already have a plumber coming to do other work. As for monthlies, every building I've lived in had meters for each apartment for gas and electric and the ConEd bill has a line for electric and gas.

But honestly: we are talking about $20/mo. for an inferior result that you will live with daily in the kitchen. I guess if things are that tight, who am I to say. But if life has come down to saving an extra $.66/day, maybe there is more that has to be considered than gas or electric for a stove.

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Response by nyc10023
almost 14 years ago
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I think posters are missing the point - this is a rental apt, no?

All you have to ask is: electric stove + washer (no dryer?) > gas stove?

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Response by huntersburg
almost 14 years ago
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>But if life has come down to saving an extra $.66/day, maybe there is more that has to be considered than gas or electric for a stove.

Kyle, obviously you are not watching those ads with Alyssa Milano about what you can do for your 66c per day.

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Response by gcondo
almost 14 years ago
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rental apartment yeah so most people prefer gas cooking, so move your gas line cheapo

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Response by kylewest
almost 14 years ago
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I think you can ask for an extra $20/mo. in rent if you go with gas+washer. No? You really mean to say you price yourself out of potential renters with an extra $20/mo for a better combo? Things ain't that tough for LLs. I didn't miss the point.

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Response by Riversider
almost 14 years ago
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When it comes to choosing an apart it pays to be smart.
*Building has a good gym(save $80-$150 per month)
*Apartment has a washer dryer(save $50-100 per month)
*Apartment has an efficient air conditioning system(save $100-$150) per month during the summmer)
*Apartment has gas stove(save $10-20 per month)

It adds up

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Response by fsbo88
almost 14 years ago
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Member since: Jan 2012

You guys are obviously not cooks. Or wannabes.

A chef wannabe will want a dual fuel range -- electric oven/gas cooktop -- electric oven will always be superior to gas. And vice versa on the cooktop. Something like this http://www.kitchenaid.com/flash.cmd?/#/product/KDSS907SSS/

But my chef buddy who owns a restaurant will tell you that he can outcook all of us on a hotplate. So there.

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Response by flarf
almost 14 years ago
Posts: 515
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Do you even have the available amperage to run an electric stove?

Even if you do, I can't imagine it will be any cheaper to run a new 220v circuit to the oven than it would be to move the gas line.

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Response by gcondo
almost 14 years ago
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fsbo note my note above: dual fuel ftw a hotplate? gas or electric?

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Response by lad
almost 14 years ago
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Member since: Apr 2009

Electric will turn off a certain segment of the market. E.g., Asian cooking is very hard on an electric stove.

I had gas stoves my entire life and actually never used an electric stove until moving to my current apartment in an all-electric building. Believe it or not, I like it a little better. I find I'm better at regulating temperature and not burning things than I was with gas. But I am no cook. And I have a fairly nice Frigidaire Gallery glass cooktop, not a coil.

All in all, my experience living in an all-electric building has been:
Oven/cooktop -- pleasant surprise
Heat pump -- not nearly as expensive as people said it would be (and more efficient than gas in milder months)
Water heater -- sucks beyond belief, both cost and performance-wise.

The main reason I wish we had gas is to convert our fireplace. I am really not comfortable with wood-burning for a variety of reasons. Never had the motivation this winter, but maybe next winter I'll try bio-ethanol.

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Response by gcondo
almost 14 years ago
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I dont understand why anyone would want a gas fireplace over wood. Guess I am old fashioned.

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Response by lad
almost 14 years ago
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For me, the preference for gas v. woodburning boils down to phobia. And a little bit of environmentalism, too, but mostly phobia.

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Response by tommy2tone
almost 14 years ago
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Hi

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Response by tommy2tone
almost 14 years ago
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Hi. This is a rental unit, small 1 bedroom on top floor of a 4-story house. I replaced my gas stove with an electric induction cooktop and a combo micro/oven. I have no regrets except 1-2X a year when I want to make quiche or pie; the process can be a bit more bothersome but afterwards I always say its probably cheaper to just but the dang thing at the store. On the other hand, I save $15 from not having gas in my place/ no carrying charge.

I was gonna go with a combo washer/dryer using electric. I honestly don't want to get into moving gas lines - although simple in theory; the layout does not lend it itself to easily moving the gas line - even if i went with flexible yellow tubing.

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Response by ANagin
almost 14 years ago
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Member since: Dec 2010

**IMPORTANT** Make sure you have enough electric service to the apartment to handle the extra load of an electric stove. Washer/Dryer comes with its own set of challenges. If electric W/D you will need space electric load, if gas W/D you will need special ventilation. It will also need to be located next to the toilet plumbing stack to properly dispose of water waste. As for value enhancement, the W/D is worth going for if feasible given the buildings infrastructure and apartment layout.

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Response by lad
almost 14 years ago
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I'm assuming a common washer and dryer for the units in the building is not possible? In a smaller building, I think I'd rather have access to a full-size, vented washer and dryer v. a combo unit. It "feels" nicer to have a W/D in unit, but that combo unit can't really handle 100% of any household's laundry needs.

If common laundry is not a possibility, I'd rather have an electric stove and a combo unit W/D than a gas stove and no W/D. No W/D anywhere in the building is the absolute pits. Lived that way for a year and nearly went nuts.

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Response by tommy2tone
almost 14 years ago
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No a common washer is not possible. I find some tenants really like having a small European-sized washer/dryer while others don't since they use a laundry service (this is over in Jersey City). The Euro-sized washers are great, imo, for 1-2 people. we tend to line dry since it is cheaper.

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Response by RachelManhattan
over 9 years ago
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Member since: Aug 2012

Dear "lad" and anyone on this thread: I am specifically looking for buildings in NYC that have electric stoves (and all electric buildings are even better). If you know of any addresses that you could share, please do! Thank you!!!

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